No more retics and burms in NY?

well not to start an argument, but what about reptile shows? they are a great place to get herps, but lots of those people bring those animals to show after show every weekend until they're sold.... and i garauntee you they're getting less than optimum treatment there - yet they still end up okay.

besides, i think everyone can agree that even a decent chain pet store is not the best place to get a ball ;)

Reptile shows freak me out a bit, because of this reason, but there is a big difference. Those reptile shows last a couple hours, and good keepers will have them nicely heated before and after. Whereas a pet shop is exposing them to those conditions 24/7.