Help, possible PAM poisoning!

how could t be his heartbeat if it was in his stomach and also in his neck near his head?


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if it is severe heart beat.. what is causing that? is it super harmful to him?


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How is he doing? (any change?) Do you have a vet appointment?

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Originally Posted by AbsoluteApril

I agree with Deborah, it's very hard to see what's going on in that video. It does not look like poisoning to me, I'd expect twitching movements and head wobbles and not being able to move very well.

Not knowing what part of the body that is, it almost looks like a severe heart beat. I know people have talked about seeing that before.

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Originally Posted by Ax01

i agree w/ April. i've seen this before. it's an erratic heartbeat.

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Originally Posted by SquirmyPug

I've never heard of that, what can be done for it? Is it a problem?

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i've seen it once when i first joined the forum. i recall that the vid was just like that.

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Originally Posted by pretzelpretzel

how could t be his heartbeat if it was in his stomach and also in his neck near his head?

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i would guess that they're snakes and they're stretchy.

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Originally Posted by pretzelpretzel

if it is severe heart beat.. what is causing that? is it super harmful to him?

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i don't remember and i'm trying to find the thread. either way i think your snake is due for a vet visit for a sonogram, EKG or whatever they use to look inside your snake.

I think it was this thread:
https://ball-pythons.net/forums/show...-bottom-scales

That's interesting, but the beating stayed in one place, unlike the 'moving lumps' video. And no, the heartbeat shouldn't be in the stomach...snakes just
aren't that "stretchy".

I only saw one lump in the video in one spot, so I was basing my comments on the video that OP shared.

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Originally Posted by AbsoluteApril

I think it was this thread:
https://ball-pythons.net/forums/show...-bottom-scales

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ah yes! that's it. it was a thread from Spaz lol. right under our nose. from her post, it seems like Thresh her Pin was either started by a camera flash during sex w/ Liliana her BEL or he had a heart attack b/c of the above mentioned stuff.

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Originally Posted by Bogertophis

That's interesting, but the beating stayed in one place, unlike the 'moving lumps' video. And no, the heartbeat shouldn't be in the stomach...snakes just
aren't that "stretchy".

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we didn't see a full body vid of OP's snake. it's hard to say if it was neck, chest, stomach, gut or whatver. it's just 1 section that was prob less than 2inches apart from lump to lump.

either way, i think OP's snake is due for a vet visit and fancy machines to look inside.

just came home from the vet.. he thinks it was a food bolus. he could feel the food bolus sort of near pretzels tail. he thinks that pretzel felt threatened (possibly from the PAM) and was trying to move it out, but then decided to swallow it back down and how he’s digested it , hence why it’s in the lower part of his body now. I’m still going to keep an eye on him. Since i sprayed PAM directly on the mulch, should i put new mulch in the tank and then try the paper towel method?


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Glad you had him checked out...:gj: I'll let others who use PAM respond to your question though.