Frozen food can kill not injure your snake

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Originally Posted by zina10

He won't learn anything. Period. He isn't here to learn. Or share. Or participate anything worthwhile.

I wonder why people even still bother. I fell for it in the beginning but its like running in a hamster wheel. Or doing the same thing twice, hoping for a different outcome.

The OP starts with some controversy and then keeps it going with utter and complete disregard for any and all good advice or common sense. It literally DOES. NOT. MATTER. how good ones argument, advice, research, etc is. He knows better.

At this point I'm not so sure this isn't simply someone that enjoys the "fall out".

There are so many people on here that need advice and help. It takes time and thought to type out a long and helpful post, that energy is better spent on someone that actually appreciates advice and help, rather then comes back with more goading horse manure such as their snake sniffing its kill all "proud" like.

As its been said. Don't feed the troll.

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'Horse manure'....so eloquent, i love it :)

Yet people still feed it. I'm reading people's replies because op is on ignore. Why are we even interacting? In a week are we going to feed him again? Two? How long are we going to do this?

I'll tell you, this post made me scared of feeding my expensive snake f/t. Thanks.

Fudging hell.....

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Originally Posted by xShevi

I'll tell you, this post made me scared of feeding my expensive snake f/t. Thanks.

Fudging hell.....

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I wouldnt worry. I've been feeding all my snakes F/T for years and never had a problem and i got snakes close too $1000 each. You just have to get from a reputable source. And generally, you will know when a F/T is bad when you thaw it out and it stinks to high heaven and makes you want to gag lol.

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Originally Posted by Sauzo

I wouldnt worry. I've been feeding all my snakes F/T for years and never had a problem and i got snakes close too $1000 each. You just have to get from a reputable source. And generally, you will know when a F/T is bad when you thaw it out and it stinks to high heaven and makes you want to gag lol.

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Good. I had that once and returned it all. Thanks for this Sauzo.

Here in the Netherlands it's hard getting by f/t food from reputable sources. I just go by pet stores or order them online from this one company that seems to be good, but if they don't have any I would have to order somewhere else.. I did that last week and I received the rats by post a little soft, yet frozen inside wrapped in a tempex box in an ice pack that was frozen solid inside and a little thawed on the outside. I fed my snake one of these rats 2 days ago, but actually didn't smell anything, so they are good then.

Is it me or do rats smell more neutral, or not like anything at all, compared to mice, who just don't smell very nice?

I was doubting myself, then reading this, nearly had a breakdown in front of the vivarium cursing myself and apologizing to the snake lmao... Thanks Sauzo.

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Originally Posted by xShevi

Good. I had that once and returned it all. Thanks for this Sauzo.

Here in the Netherlands it's hard getting by f/t food from reputable sources. I just go by pet stores or order them online from this one company that seems to be good, but if they don't have any I would have to order somewhere else.. I did that last week and I received the rats by post a little soft, yet frozen inside wrapped in a tempex box in an ice pack that was frozen solid inside and a little thawed on the outside. I fed my snake one of these rats 2 days ago, but actually didn't smell anything, so they are good then.

Is it me or do rats smell more neutral, or not like anything at all, compared to mice, who just don't smell very nice?

I was doubting myself, then reading this, nearly had a breakdown in front of the vivarium cursing myself and apologizing to the snake lmao... Thanks Sauzo.

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Rats can be pretty funky with their scent naturally. They are just foul little critters normally and if they urinated on themselves it can smell pretty skunky. I find them less appealing than mice but maybe that is just me.

I also feed frozen thawed and have for years. The potential of a very expensive bite being a vet trip is just not something I am willing to risk for my snakes. If you can't find frozen thawed then my recommendation is get used to killing your live prey before feeding once you get to a larger size. It is just not worth a bite no matter that reason behind feeding live.

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Originally Posted by xShevi

Good. I had that once and returned it all. Thanks for this Sauzo.

Here in the Netherlands it's hard getting by f/t food from reputable sources. I just go by pet stores or order them online from this one company that seems to be good, but if they don't have any I would have to order somewhere else.. I did that last week and I received the rats by post a little soft, yet frozen inside wrapped in a tempex box in an ice pack that was frozen solid inside and a little thawed on the outside. I fed my snake one of these rats 2 days ago, but actually didn't smell anything, so they are good then.

Is it me or do rats smell more neutral, or not like anything at all, compared to mice, who just don't smell very nice?

I was doubting myself, then reading this, nearly had a breakdown in front of the vivarium cursing myself and apologizing to the snake lmao... Thanks Sauzo.

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Depends how well said vendors clean and prepare their rats. I've seen some with poop in the bags and stained rats which I'm assuming is piss. Others i have seen were clean and no real smell. The area i get my rats and stuff from all get theirs from the same local supplier that i know so they are good for the most part. But I'm a crazy person who spends about $120 a month on snake food when i should be buying a small chest freezer and ordering in bulk.....but i keep spending money on more snakes and cages :(

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Originally Posted by Sauzo

I wouldnt worry. I've been feeding all my snakes F/T for years and never had a problem and i got snakes close too $1000 each. You just have to get from a reputable source. And generally, you will know when a F/T is bad when you thaw it out and it stinks to high heaven and makes you want to gag lol.

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As i said at the beginning, you can feed them many years F/T and it takes only one bad frozen to kill the snake. You will never know. Besides, its healthier to feed live or pre killed. Its advisable if you feed F/T to add vitamins to the prey.