First-Time Snake Owner, Considering A Ball Python

Okay. So what would be a good use for the log?

It was only $5, but I'd rather use it. Shedding aid? It could rub on it. Or should I leave it out and take the extra floorspace (It is only a 20gal, and the water bowl is really big).

I place mine between the hides long ways so it makes a kind of covered tunnel for them to explore. Very good to encourage potentially shy snakes to move about more.

Oh, I also spoke with the pet shop owner where I bought the stuff. He said good luck finding a MBK anywhere but online, and at any age other than a hatchling, for anywhere near the price of a ball python or a cool Cali King morph.

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Originally Posted by Dagger311

Oh, I also spoke with the pet shop owner where I bought the stuff. He said good luck finding a MBK anywhere but online, and at any age other than a hatchling, for anywhere near the price of a ball python or a cool Cali King morph.

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I would hold off and check out the expo first.
Maybe try and get a vendor list and check out their sites of contact them to know what you might find??

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Originally Posted by PitOnTheProwl

I would hold off and check out the expo first.
Maybe try and get a vendor list and check out their sites of contact them to know what you might find??

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I'm probably going to wait for the vendor.

I'm also leaning heavily towards a Kingsnake, after seeing his MBK. I like how slender they are.

Oh, and do you guys think this may be too big of a bowl for a 20 gallon?

https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...BUaZPaKAWgJ%2F
https://www.instagram.com/p/BUaZPaKAWgJ/

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Originally Posted by Dagger311

I'm probably going to wait for the vendor.

I'm also leaning heavily towards a Kingsnake, after seeing his MBK. I like how slender they are.

Oh, and do you guys think this may be too big of a bowl for a 20 gallon?

https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...BUaZPaKAWgJ%2F
https://www.instagram.com/p/BUaZPaKAWgJ/

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Kingsnake is not a bad idea, there are plenty of awesome patterns out there. Corn snakes are also pretty cheap and suuuper unique with patterns, they also are very slender if you are open to them. BPs have some cool variety, but MAN they can get pricey fast! BPs are also pretty beefy in general compared to a kingsnake. Especially females! I personally just love their super chill personalities and the little extra plump. And they have puppy faces!

I want to say the bowl-to-tank ratio might be tough. I don't know for sure with that picture, but you'll want to have ample room to place the hides in their respective temps. i.e. one side being 91 hot spot with the 85 degree ambient and the other a 75 degree ambient for a BP. It might get pretty crowded. You can totally hold onto it though and use assuming you upgrade tank sizes depending on the snake. Also keep the proper enclosure size for a snake in mind when they are fully grown. Everyone has varying opinions on what is right, so it's likely up to you. But I like to at least say it should end up being long enough for the noodle to stretch out completely when fully grown.

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Originally Posted by ferrislongdog

Kingsnake is not a bad idea, there are plenty of awesome patterns out there. Corn snakes are also pretty cheap and suuuper unique with patterns, they also are very slender if you are open to them. BPs have some cool variety, but MAN they can get pricey fast! BPs are also pretty beefy in general compared to a kingsnake. Especially females! I personally just love their super chill personalities and the little extra plump. And they have puppy faces!

I want to say the bowl-to-tank ratio might be tough. I don't know for sure with that picture, but you'll want to have ample room to place the hides in their respective temps. i.e. one side being 91 hot spot with the 85 degree ambient and the other a 75 degree ambient for a BP. It might get pretty crowded. You can totally hold onto it though and use assuming you upgrade tank sizes depending on the snake. Also keep the proper enclosure size for a snake in mind when they are fully grown. Everyone has varying opinions on what is right, so it's likely up to you. But I like to at least say it should end up being long enough for the noodle to stretch out completely when fully grown.

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The bowl takes up a good 1/4 or 1/5 of the tank.

I'd love a corn snake, but my state has this weird law where you can't keep native nonvenomous snakes (Which corn snakes are), or non-native hots. Kingsnakes and milksnakes are the only CB Colubrid options for me, or I could go catch a rat/garter snake (Which I don't want to do).

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Originally Posted by Dagger311

Okay. So what would be a good use for the log?

It was only $5, but I'd rather use it. Shedding aid? It could rub on it. Or should I leave it out and take the extra floorspace (It is only a 20gal, and the water bowl is really big).

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Another alternate use is treating it like a bridge or turning it up vertically to lean against something so the snake can climb on. I myself was considering getting two, one larger/taller than the other to make "stairs" to access higher areas.

I decided on a kingsnake. I went back to where I bought the stuff, got store credit for the light fixture and bulb, got two cave hides, and a smaller water bowl.

My new question is: will a 6"x11" UTH alone be enough to keep a king snake in a 20 gallon?

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Originally Posted by Dagger311

I decided on a kingsnake. I went back to where I bought the stuff, got store credit for the light fixture and bulb, got two cave hides, and a smaller water bowl.

My new question is: will a 6"x11" UTH alone be enough to keep a king snake in a 20 gallon?

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The UTH is strictly for creating a hot spot. It will depend on the ambient temps where the snake will be kept.