Burns / Infection / Unknown Disease : One of the Worst Snake Owners

You're a real nice person, aren'tcha? You think this is so easy for me? You think life is so carefree that I can just do anything you guys can ask me to do? You can take your opinion, roll it up sideways, and stick it where the sun don't shine. Somebody might as well lock the thread from here. I've done all I could. I'm not going against my mother and getting in trouble in all sorts of angles just for this. It sucks, I know, but if we lived in a world where everything worked out then we wouldn't be having this conversation.

What happened to you being supportive? I wasn't even going to call you an adult because to me you don't act like one. You're really going to attempt to put this much on me through the internet. Tough luck, kid. I'm not budging. I did all I could and I'm not breaking the boundaries. I'm already in enough trouble as it is and there's no way one person on the internet is going to make hell out of my life.

"but the snake is going through worse-"

I at least saved Dave. Be grateful for that. One is better than none. Yes, he's in pain but for God's sake is that really my fault? Why must you punish me? I only tried to help.

I'm not calling animal control and that's final. It's easy for you to say that sh!t because you're sitting states or countries away not even feeling what I'm feeling.

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Originally Posted by Sallos

Nixon, I responded earlier saying you needed to get involved, but honestly, I think the best move now is to completely detach yourself from the situation.

The animals are important, but you are more so, and this has all of the indicators of a potentially very ugly situation. I completely commend you on your caring for Dave, and all you've done for the other animals still in the :cens0r: care. But this one won't end well for you. What you are attempting to do is the 100% right thing, but at this point, without the support of your parents, it becomes exponentially harder. If they can't be convinced to back your move, then please just walk away from this fight. Do try and convince them to go to the authorities. Pull the "what would you do if this was a puppy or a kitten?" However, if they are adamant that they don't want to cross this guy because he is dangerous - well, there might be a valid reason for it. We out here on the web aren't in a position to judge that. Though, I would ask if he was so dangerous, why do they allow you to visit in the first place? In the end though, it is their house, their rules, and it sounds like they have your safety in mind (good parents). I'd respect their wishes. At the very least, you gave the :cens0r: a wake up call that there is legal jeopardy in what he is doing.


As for the friendship, I'm sorry dude but that is toxic. I've had very few true friends, so I know exactly why you don't want to lose someone you think of as a long term friend. It doesn't work when one person puts in all the effort. I've been there too. She's not really a friend, and you deserve better.

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Nixon, I think your last post on the thread is spot-on. Forget certain trolling instigators here. Obviously i have no idea if there is an element of actual danger here. Pursuant to the comment above, seems like your folks wouldn't want you over there in the first place if there was, BUT even if there is not - you could be getting yourself and the rest of your family since you are a minor (emphasis added for instigators, not you) into a huge, ugly, expensive, long, drag-out legal situation. You may be in the right, but you can still be sued. They may not have a case against you, but you'll still need to pay a lawyer. You might be the good-guy of the story, but you will still suffer if it goes in this direction. Dude, you saved a desperate animal, take the win, dont make yourself into a martyr.

Nixon, this is my two cents: step away for a little while. Stop posting and reading, you've heard all the angles and all the opinions. There's a lot on your shoulders right now. Take a break from the forum and other people's opinions and take some time for you, you deserve it!!! Take some time to think, on your own, what is best for you right now. Maybe take a breather and then talk to your mom again, maybe your mind is made up. Right now, I believe some time to think on your own will lead you to what your best plan of action is. And whatever you choose, it's your choice and it's ok.

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Originally Posted by Nixon

You're a real nice person, aren'tcha? You think this is so easy for me? You think life is so carefree that I can just do anything you guys can ask me to do? You can take your opinion, roll it up sideways, and stick it where the sun don't shine. Somebody might as well lock the thread from here. I've done all I could. I'm not going against my mother and getting in trouble in all sorts of angles just for this. It sucks, I know, but if we lived in a world where everything worked out then we wouldn't be having this conversation.

What happened to you being supportive? I wasn't even going to call you an adult because to me you don't act like one. You're really going to attempt to put this much on me through the internet. Tough luck, kid. I'm not budging. I did all I could and I'm not breaking the boundaries. I'm already in enough trouble as it is and there's no way one person on the internet is going to make hell out of my life.

"but the snake is going through worse-"

I at least saved Dave. Be grateful for that. One is better than none. Yes, he's in pain but for God's sake is that really my fault? Why must you punish me? I only tried to help.

I'm not calling animal control and that's final. It's easy for you to say that sh!t because you're sitting states or countries away not even feeling what I'm feeling.

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Oh, I'm not trying to change your mind! It's obviously made up... Just letting you know how I (and I'm sure others) see it buddy :) I never said it was easy, though it's certainly not as hard as you're making it. And I never said it was your fault he was in the position, but now, it IS your fault it's continuing. I was supportive until you decided a life wasn't worth the effort to make a phone call. Oh... and you didn't try ;) You almost tried.

Also feel the need to point this out-- you CHOSE to post this thread, and you were looking to upset and ignite people's temper with it. Well, congrats, you accomplished that, so don't cry when it gets turned on you for basically throwing this situation back in our faces. You shouldn't have posted this in the first place if you didn't plan to do anything about it.

Wait... you did plan to do something? What happened to that idea?:rolleyes:

Yeah, keep rolling out excuses.... they're fun to read ;)

Actually Trisnake, you're not helping at all, and should maybe stop because I think you're getting a bit too emotionally involved in this now.

Nixon, you do the best that you are able to in whatever situation you find yourself it. That's all any of us do. If in the future you look back at whatever choice you end up making and think you made a mistake, well then, it's a lesson learned. None of us can know how a volatile situation is going to play out. For what it's worth, if you call animal control, there should not be any legal repercussions for you. @bcr229 is correct; animal abuse is a crime and you will not get yourself or your family in any legal trouble for reporting it, especially if done anonymously. You won't have any control in what happens to any of the animals after that point, so that I think is going to be the hard part. The authorities could very well euthanize the snakes, or turn them over to a rescue, or take the family at their word that's they're working to fix things and leave it that. You will probably never know, but at this point, without the support of your parents, I don't think you're going to have much ability to do anything more yourself.

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Originally Posted by Lizardlicks

Actually Trisnake, you're not helping at all, and should maybe stop because I think you're getting a bit too emotionally involved in this now.

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Honestly, this whole thread was obviously intended to get people emotionally involved. Are the others who furiously ranted about how terrible god awful this step dad is, "oh the things I would do to someone like that" etc, and wanting to set up a gofundme too emotionally involved as well? Or is it only so when it gets negative towards someone present on the forum, and not some no-name nobody? He chose to post on a public forum. He asked for opinions. He got them. I don't care if they're helpful at this point because he's already made his choice.

Awww, a 16 year old is too stressed out, give me a break; welcome to life! Is there any way that this kid could be held at all responsible for seeing the abuse firsthand and NOT reporting it?

Thanks a lot you two. I know I should listen to Craig but this bait, mm. You two are influencing my behavior at the moment, you know this, right? You think I'm just going to bow to you for being a jerk? Use your head if you have one.

I still love how somebody is trying to get me in trouble even though I rescued one of their snakes and still helped the other. (As I said, I sanitized his cage before I left) But to you you're going to say that it's no enough. You're going to say that I started this entire thing to get people angry because I won't do anything. The hell, man? I never started this thread with the thought of animal control in my mind, actually. I was more on board with figuring out what's wrong with him and going from there.

But since the entire family hates me now, that's useless.

And by the way. My mother still as authority over me. This is her house under her rules and yes, I have gone against her before but not today.

I also love how you gave me a negative rep for "abusing an animal and cursing." yeah ok go call peta

Nixon, Nobody else has walked in your shoes, and nobody else has to today or ever. Don't let the negativity influence you, rise above that. You are currently surrounding yourself with negativity (none created by you) both in the "friends" home (although that seems to be at a crossroads, for the better) and also on this forum. From everything I've read on Dave's thread and on this thread, you seem like a pretty amazing kid. I have seen the negativity taking it's toll on you though, your attitude has changed since this thread took a different turn. I can't blame you. Like I said before, you have a lot on your shoulders. I do, however, believe that you will rise above this, learn from the whole thing, and walk away a stronger person who continues to do great things.
Believe me, I would love to see these animals taken from this family and I would love to see some sense literally beaten into this man. Only you know what's best for you and your family right now and I support your decision. Please don't lose your passion, it's a rare gift.
Also, please don't let this situation/thread sour your view of the forum, this really is a great place for us snake lovers, and you belong here.