Too hot?

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Originally Posted by MandMac

KMG, I did look at UTHs some time back. I’m not going to say that I know everything about undertank heating options nor the specifics of how they function or are set up. However, based on what I read when I first acquired my snakes and the information I have seen since, I have determined that they are not an optimal way to heat my enclosures. This is due to the depth of substrate in my snake’s cages, the size of said cages, the type of cage that I have, and the temps that my rooms dip to in winter.

Given this, I currently have no desire to go digging into the bowels of cyberspace in the hopes of finding further information for a product that does not appear to be applicable to my situation. And I really don’t believe that I differ from most other people in this regard. I’ve researched something enough to determine that it will not work for me, then moved on to researching other options and products. To do otherwise seems like a time resource sink, and thus my response to ‘research it’ is ‘thank you, but no thank you’.

Of course, if you care to explain how reducing the primary heat source will not effect any changes to the overall ambient temperature, then, please, enlighten me. But I will ask that you explain the reason for this because I expect heat to radiate out from its source. My laptop meets this expectation even though providing heat is not its intended purpose.

Similarly, if you really feel that the ability to sex a snake is essential to keeping them, then you will need to convince me of the benefit, or need, for this. Because I can’t see it as being important. At this time, if I really wanted to know what sex my guys are, then I will take them to the vet or the local rescue rather than subject them to my amateurish attempts. As I have no desire to breed them, knowing their sex would only serve to satisfy my curiosity. Unless the purpose is to be cognizant of the chance of parthenogenesis? Or does knowing the sex determine some aspect of care of which I am unaware?

For me, researching either of these topics further is akin to knowing normal values for the specific gravity of urine. Pointless, unless you’re in the field of veterinary medicine. Without a useful application for any of the above listed topics, I will continue in my willful ignorance of them while I explore other avenues of knowledge for which I can foresee an application.

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So you don't use UTHs and claim to not know that much about them but yet you get involved in a conversation discussing their function? OK

BTW, You most certainly did compare the function of a UTH to that of a CHE. They are completely different devices. Built to do similar jobs in different ways. A UTH is intended to create a hotspot for the animal on the cage floor. They are not intended to heat the air of the cage. Yes, they are going to add some heat but it is a minimal amount. A UTH should never be run at a temp that is high enough that you see a large rise in the ambient temp.

A CHE is a great device that can deliver a good hotspot while also having heat spilled out to warm the ambient temp. They work well and I have used many before getting one heated snake room. I have one CHE that ran 24/7 at full power for almost 2 years. It still works I just not longer need it so its put up. They have their place and sound like they work well for you.

Im done here. Yall have at it.

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Originally Posted by KMG

BTW, You most certainly did compare the function of a UTH to that of a CHE.

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I'll concede that point.

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Originally Posted by KMG

...Built to do similar jobs in different ways. A UTH is intended to create a hotspot for the animal on the cage floor. They are not intended to heat the air of the cage. Yes, they are going to add some heat but it is a minimal amount. A UTH should never be run at a temp that is high enough that you see a large rise in the ambient temp...

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The bolded section is all I was saying when I agreed with the OP.

And good day to you.

Correct me if I'm wrong but KMG whole point is you can't compare a che to an uth bc they have different means of supplying heat. Also that you shouldn't be replying if your not familiar with the OP equipment bc in no way will that help him.

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Originally Posted by chrid16371

Correct me if I'm wrong but KMG whole point is you can't compare a che to an uth bc they have different means of supplying heat. Also that you shouldn't be replying if your not familiar with the OP equipment bc in no way will that help him.

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If it was, then I have misunderstood...pretty much the entire conversation.


I thought the original point was that changing the settings for a UTH would not effect the other temperatures in the enclosure.


However, I would argue that it has become apparent that what was intended was that changing the setting for a UTH will not significanlty impact the other temperatures of an enclosure. And this makes perfect sense.


Similarly, it was not my intention to compare UTH and CHE in an apples to apples fashion. Though obviously that is the only possible interpretation of my comment.