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  • 09-20-2015, 12:22 AM
    Solarsoldier001
    Re: Help identifying?? Was told a bumble bee but thinking a kind of spider?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by OhhWatALoser View Post
    Are you sure you are not seeing what you want to see? I mean look at these picture together there is a huge difference between them and one is actually your snake.. The honeybee pattern is washed almost gray. I think it would be hard for even the worst camera to turn the pattern black. I'm not seeing hypo in these pics at all. The bathroom picture color of looked like it, but obviously the warm white bulbs are distorting the color and the pattern is still pretty black. Hypo is short for hypomelanistic which is a reduction in black.

    Not saying I'm prefect at making ids but the pairing was het to het and the honey bee got lighter and lighter after ever shed and more purple orange with every shed.

    My hypo when born.


    http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/09...301d90e51b.jpg

    My normal spider when born

    http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/09...c21eb198db.jpg

    Hypo
    http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/09...0c64fdc061.jpg
    Normal
    http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/09...6fcd6f1223.jpg


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  • 09-20-2015, 12:29 AM
    boots01
    Re: Help identifying?? Was told a bumble bee but thinking a kind of spider?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Solarsoldier001 View Post
    Not saying I'm prefect at making ids but the pairing was het to het and the honey bee got lighter and lighter after ever shed and more purple orange with every shed.

    My hypo when born.


    http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/09...301d90e51b.jpg

    My normal spider when born

    http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/09...c21eb198db.jpg

    Hypo
    http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/09...0c64fdc061.jpg
    Normal
    http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/09...6fcd6f1223.jpg


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    http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/09...f4894fa63b.jpg

    This! But a little darker. I think she's 2 but my friend was wrong about what morph she is so I'm not 100% sure her age or how many times she's shed


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  • 09-20-2015, 12:39 AM
    gameonpython
    Re: Help identifying?? Was told a bumble bee but thinking a kind of spider?
    I'm voting that your snake is just a nice light spider.


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  • 09-20-2015, 01:03 AM
    boots01
    Re: Help identifying?? Was told a bumble bee but thinking a kind of spider?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by gameonpython View Post
    I'm voting that your snake is just a nice light spider.


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    I think I could see that... She's def not an easy one. I'm hoping to find a "professional" to take her to!


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  • 09-20-2015, 01:49 AM
    Eric Alan
    Re: Help identifying?? Was told a bumble bee but thinking a kind of spider?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Solarsoldier001 View Post
    Not saying I'm prefect at making ids but the pairing was het to het and the honey bee got lighter and lighter after ever shed and more purple orange with every shed.

    My hypo when born.


    http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/09...301d90e51b.jpg

    My normal spider when born

    http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/09...c21eb198db.jpg

    Hypo
    http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/09...0c64fdc061.jpg
    Normal
    http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/09...6fcd6f1223.jpg


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    I'm pretty sure he was talking about the OP's animal - not yours. ;)
  • 09-20-2015, 01:50 AM
    gameonpython
    Re: Help identifying?? Was told a bumble bee but thinking a kind of spider?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by boots01 View Post
    I think I could see that... She's def not an easy one. I'm hoping to find a "professional" to take her to!


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    Yes, morphs can be very tricky, especially when you have no background information on them. I still am clueless as to what my supposedly pastel is! As far as finding a professional, I would ask multiple ball python breeders, or go to a reptile expo and ask around what people think she is. Everyone sees a snake a little differently, so it's best to get multiple opinions. Were you planning on breeding her? If not, I wouldn't worry too much on figuring out her morph. It can prove to be almost impossible in some cases. If you do plan on breeding, then you can figure out what she is depending on the babies she produces. Good luck!


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  • 09-20-2015, 07:41 AM
    OhhWatALoser
    Re: Help identifying?? Was told a bumble bee but thinking a kind of spider?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Eric Alan View Post
    I'm pretty sure he was talking about the OP's animal - not yours. ;)

    Exactly, I was just using the picture to put the OP animal next to one that is obviously a honeybee.
  • 09-20-2015, 08:15 AM
    wolfy-hound
    I would say it's a light colored spider. Each morph has quite a bit of variation for the individuals.

    The "het" is before the name, also, not after the name. To make sure it's clear for you, when you saw "Cinnamon Het Ghost", the "het" goes with the "Ghost" not with the "Cinnamon". So the het is before the trait, not after the trait? It's always "het ghost" or "het albino" when it's written out like that. BUT, when snake folks are talking, sometimes they refer to a snake carrying ghost or albino as a "het" so sometimes "het" is used as an adjective, and sometimes it's a noun.

    Het ghost would also mean that the animal carries the ghost gene BUT looks normal. It doesn't show any sign of the ghost, because it just carries the trait and it's offspring might get that gene too. So that Cinnamon Het Ghost would look like a regular cinnamon.

    It's a lot of fun when you're just learning about all these different morphs and pretty confusing too. The widgets on the websites that let you put in different animals to see what you could produce are a lot of fun. Breeding is a lot of work and money too though.
  • 09-20-2015, 11:43 AM
    boots01
    Re: Help identifying?? Was told a bumble bee but thinking a kind of spider?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by wolfy-hound View Post
    I would say it's a light colored spider. Each morph has quite a bit of variation for the individuals.

    The "het" is before the name, also, not after the name. To make sure it's clear for you, when you saw "Cinnamon Het Ghost", the "het" goes with the "Ghost" not with the "Cinnamon". So the het is before the trait, not after the trait? It's always "het ghost" or "het albino" when it's written out like that. BUT, when snake folks are talking, sometimes they refer to a snake carrying ghost or albino as a "het" so sometimes "het" is used as an adjective, and sometimes it's a noun.

    Het ghost would also mean that the animal carries the ghost gene BUT looks normal. It doesn't show any sign of the ghost, because it just carries the trait and it's offspring might get that gene too. So that Cinnamon Het Ghost would look like a regular cinnamon.

    It's a lot of fun when you're just learning about all these different morphs and pretty confusing too. The widgets on the websites that let you put in different animals to see what you could produce are a lot of fun. Breeding is a lot of work and money too though.

    I think that makes sense! I'll just need to read it like 70 times then read about 300 more articles on it lol genetics aren't my strong point.....

    What does lesser mean? The male is SuppoSedly a cinnamon lesser.


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  • 09-20-2015, 11:44 AM
    OhhWatALoser
    lesser is a morph, short for lesser platinum.
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