Landlord Said the Snakes Gotta Go :(

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Originally Posted by PitOnTheProwl

I didn't get a chance to serve due to something as sad as hearing loss.
However you and yours are welcome to come to a BBQ and listen to some of the stories my chosen family tells of their times over seas.
And yes it sucks when I have to put a casket in the ground that weighs less that I know my friend did.
I don't post just to post. I live a real life and consist of more than you see here.
So before you ask me to do something somewhere, you should make sure that I haven't already been there and voiced my thoughts.
As far as being offended, Im sorry you feel that way but everything going on in life are not solely about you, including my thoughts.

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It wasn't about me, but I'm not going to argue about it anymore. :) I don't understand your point of view and you don't understand mine, so I think we can just leave it at that.

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Originally Posted by PitOnTheProwl

Let me give you a little peak into the unanswered part of my life....
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Question, if you don't mind me asking, is that your mother or..?

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Originally Posted by pbyeerts

Thankfully, the law is based upon facts and not emotions. The tenant did not have permission from the landlord to have the snakes. Unless there are extenuating factors, the case is closed and either the snakes, tenant, or both are out of the property.

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Actually the OP has not stated what, if anything, is in the lease regarding pets. It may only reference only cats and dogs, it may state no pets permitted at all, it may be silent, etc.

40 Pythons without even knowing if they are allowed or not? I happily rent and can't imagine keeping that many in a rental. Good luck OP but that is way overboard IMHO.

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Originally Posted by Fraido

Question, if you don't mind me asking, is that your mother or..?

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Was. 35 years and still waiting.
I have an idea of who did it and I will find out when he gets paroled again.

To help get this back on track, I have been in this situation before, and it will be imperative to determine what your rights are and figure out what's in the lease. Had I been as smart then about it as I am now, things would have gone differently. But I was younger, the internet only barely existed, and I got bullied into getting rid of some of the animals and having to hide others. All because of a maintenance guy who was afraid of them. And they absolutely do have a right to come in and inspect, but here at least they have to give notice and I believe you can require that you be present.

Wow. This thread just blew up. I have bipolar disorder and borderline personality disorder but I would NEVER use that as ammunition to keep my snakes in this manner. The OP didn't tell the landlord about his snakes so now he must face his consequences. Do I think I am disabled due to my mental status, nope. I get through each day by taking my meds and also by relying on therapy and a good support system. Yes my animals do help but I would not keep my animals if my landlord told me that they have to go. I would be responsible and rehome them.

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Wow. This thread just blew up. I have bipolar disorder and borderline personality disorder but I would NEVER use that as ammunition to keep my snakes in this manner. The OP didn't tell the landlord about his snakes so now he must face his consequences. Do I think I am disabled due to my mental status, nope. I get through each day by taking my meds and also by relying on therapy and a good support system. Yes my animals do help but I would not keep my animals if my landlord told me that they have to go. I would be responsible and rehome them.

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Originally Posted by PitOnTheProwl

Was. 35 years and still waiting.
I have an idea of who did it and I will find out when he gets paroled again.

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She still IS your mother! But that's awful.:/

Please don't use problems that other people actually have to make excuses as to why you (or someone else) should be some sort of exception. OP needs to own up to his mistakes and deal with the consequences and move on. I don't lease or rent any property but I find it extremely disrespectful to the owner to do something like keep 40 snakes without even checking to see if it's allowed.

I'm in school for and (about to graduate) in psychology, if that means anything.

Because one person goes through amazing hardship and doesn't have PTSD and someone else goes through less and does...that doesn't mean anything. I was in a severe and violent car accident and experienced head trauma among other things, and I was diagnosed with PTSD. That situation was lesser than, in the words of another member, picking up the body parts of my friends who died in battle. My experience and her husbands experience are mutually exclusive; they have nothing to do with one another, and therefore cannot validify OR invalidate one another. I use her example simply to describe someone who has experienced a lot and suffers for it, and personally, had I been in her husband's shoes, I would be a wreck after experiencing the trials of war.

PTSD is associated with war because many, many veterans experience it for extremely obvious reasons. But PTSD is simply showing several symptoms or reactions to a traumatic event; it's a person's abnormal or debilitating response to anything traumatic. "Trauma" is somewhat relative, the actual definition includes virtually anything traumatic, but people's definition of it and what they consider to be traumatic is often relative to their own experiences. A person might be traumatized by seeing a dead body, but an EMT who sees dead and dying people often might think little of it. And because some people have "had it worse" than others, but handle it better, they are quick to assume others should not be as affected as they are when experiencing "lesser" trauma. My grandfather was in Vietnam. He had minimal mental damage, and what he did bring back from the war he was able to work through quickly. He was a pilot. He thinks the soldiers (often ground soldiers who I'm sure saw so much more than he did) must all be faking and exaggerating thier debilitating PTSD because he himself did not experience it. Which is unfair, but also a common rational. "I'm okay, and you should be too."

PTSD is easy enough to fake or exaggerate. That doesn't make it any less real for the people who experience it. Someone who has less severe PTSD symptoms in response to more trauma naturally might resent one who has more severe PTSD to less trauma. It's a natural feeling, but it's not fair either. Everyone's threashold for what pain they can take mentally and physically differs significantly, and no one person is the same. One person might be able to live through a genocide and re-adjust to society, while someone else might crack under what seems like nothing.

And that's all I have to say about that.

On a new note, to actually work the system and say you need therapy pets, you have to actually find a professional willing to put that on paper for you. Working the system can be easy, but it can also be hard. Many people who get things like that, disability, etc have been in the system already for some time and have documentation of what does and does not work for them. The person who said she has BPD and therapy pets probably (correct me if I'm wrong) has been documented with these problems for some time and probably was already recieving care or therapy. Perhaps having therapy pets was an idea a therapist even brought up. I'd be prepared, should you take that route (that I don't condone if it's not true), be prepared for at least several therapist visits, being asked to try meds and alternative treaments first, etc. expect it to be an expensive route, even if only paying co-pays.

Good luck, whatever route you take.