Dealing with suspicious breeders

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Originally Posted by OsirisRa32

In most states in the United States at least the amount in question would raise it OUT of small claims court...

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Negative...........$5k and under is usually small claims

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Originally Posted by threezero

He is calling me a liar and I know he monitor this thread now.


Just to to put it out the reason I had to delay payment was that my grandpa died in china and I had to go back to china. I have both death certificate and and plan ticket invoice. I was involve in quite a serious car accident when I got back from china for which I have both insurance paper and photo of totalled car to back up.
Please do not accuse me of lying. I was In communication the whole way letting you know what's going on. You on the other hand did not update me and only give me info when I push for it and when the time comes to finally deliver I was greet with "dead snake pleae wait some more"


Chris do post your side. I'm not pointing fingers at anything right now. All I want is an refund which as your customer I should be entitled to after the original snake I pay for has die.

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Not to sound rude BUT I don't care what happened in your life during this time (good or bad). Payments got delayed and Chris still had no problem taking your money rather than breaking off the deal due to breach of contract. If he had a problem with it then he should have dropped you and created a deadbeat buyer thread but as soon as he continued to take payments he renegotiated the contract between the two of you.
I would start the process to take it to court and possibly file a police report for theft just to have it on record with them as well.
Its not going to be easy but trash like this guy needs to be taken out.

He can monitor this thread all he likes, his silence proves he is someone with no character. I hate to see scum in our hobby but its live and mold grows everywhere.

Hate to say it but I third that notion my friend. At this point PLEASE out this breeder ( tell everyone in the community ) who he is or his site.

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Originally Posted by threezero

Where can I post about this to warn ther ppl and maybe force him to return my money to save his reputation(which is already not very good from what i can gather from google). At this point I'm glad to get any money back.

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Based on his existing Fauna rep I wouldn't have sent him $24 never mind $2400.

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Originally Posted by halo12welve

Hate to say it but I third that notion my friend. At this point PLEASE out this breeder ( tell everyone in the community ) who he is or his site.

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That has been done here already.

Unfortunate... I believe this was a scam to begin with. Why would you offer a payment plan with no end date? Meanwhile you are watching the animal depreciate in value and can't sell it to anyone else? If I was a betting man I'd say he either never had the animal, or sold it to someone else while collecting your cash, or is impersonating the Chris @ Omega (not sure why you would impersonate someone with bad rep).

Refund, oust on BOI, tell everyone in the hobby in Canada to keep a watch.

Ok I kind of took a step back. He is not going to give me my money back. Since he is so sure he will hit with his 3 clutch. I'm willing to wait another month for his clutch to hatch given than he will give me written guarantee that he will deliver my animal by a certain time or my money back. If he can't give me that I am gonna start the chargeback and start going through the court process, file police report etc.

Mr Loukas I think this is very fair for you. If you are genuinely going to sent me a snake you should have no problem with this.

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Originally Posted by threezero

Ok I kind of took a step back. He is not going to give me my money back. Since he is so sure he will hit with his 3 clutch

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So there's no guarantee that the animal that you have apparently paid non refundable money for will even exist. This whole situation is brain numbing

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Burning up your time to take it to court.
Very smart on his part.

It may or may not have exist. He send he has picture of the dead snake. Which I request for him
To sent... I have never deal with situation like this but does other legitimate breeders refund customer when something like this happens? What to know if it's the norm of the industry to deny refund and blame customers? This is the first time I have deal with something like this. Usually complaints on a forum get a company attention and they try to make right, I have never encounter situation where complaining means I will not get customer service (according to Chris I have lost this right when I started complaining and outing him)

I had high hopes in breeding bp... Now not so much...