Feeding f/t for the first time

Oh, hes in a 20g terriarum. & hes almost 2 feet when stretched out. & i know hes just settling in so I wasn't really worried, just wanted to know the questions I asked earlier if it couldve been a factor. & ive been trying to get up to 90 it just wont reach so when i get my paycheck on saturday i'm getting a new & hopefully better UTH cause its not very sticky for some reason. & Ive only handled him once since I got him for about 10 ish minutes. But he was really sweet, & wasnt curled, he was crawling up my arm & flicking his tongue & what not. He didnt seem scared or shy. & the hideouts are pretty tight, probably could be tighter though.


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& he's not a week old, he's just been at my house for a week. Not sure if that's what you meant, just making sure. He's 6 months.


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Originally Posted by goshelby

& he's not a week old, he's just been at my house for a week. Not sure if that's what you meant, just making sure. He's 6 months.


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Yes, I meant a week old to you and a new environment.

Okay, just making sure.


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To answer the OP's question which has been answered a few times already: Wait a week before offering another meal. I'd recommend to keep trying in the snake's enclosure. If it keeps refusing to eat, then it does not feel like eating or something is wrong in the enclosure and changes need to be made.


Ahem :soapbx:

Is feeding in a separate enclosure such a bad/wrong thing? We preach to do what is right and what works by the snake correct? Sometimes feeding in another enclosure is the right answer. In this instance(like many others), I do not believe it is the proper road to travel.

I had a baby king snake which would not eat in its enclsosure at all for the first 4 months. It would eat not problem in a brown bag or a separate kritter keeper. Also babysat a BP for 6 months and to get it started eating, I used a shoe box for a month. After that, the snake ate anywhere I put it and deveolped a strong feeding response.

^^ These are exceptions to most of the rules. Advanced/experienced keepers should understand this. Newer/inexperienced keepers will learn their snakes with time and know what to try as they gain experience and receive advice provided questions are asked.

OP(goshelby): Athough you tried what sounds like 1 time to feed the snake in it's enclosure, it sounds like you have already given up attempting this in the future. Sometimes leaving a f/t rodent overnight in it's enclosure will allow the snake to feel secure enough when no one is watching to eat its meal. You should be more open to the advice and criticisms of others and be less of a hard head. Everyone has told you the hand/feeding association is a myth, which it is, please remove your head from your butt, have a seat, stay awhile and listen. You've been doing research for 5 months and had your snake for a week. When I signed up on this forum I had 10 years snake experience, did 4 months of research on why my BP did not eat for 2 months and still had questions. The collective experience on this forum is well over 40,000 years(this is not an exaggeration, we have 40k+ members and if each has 1 year of experience it adds up). There might be a bit of knowledge here which might help.


Doolitle asked questions pertinent to the enclosure which we found the warm side is a bit low. This could be a factor in why the snake did not eat in its enclosure. People are ridiculously quick to jump down peoples' throats before knowing all the information. Especially on the internet. This is also a double-edged sword, if we don't get the information needed then we really can't help people. Extract the information(kicking and screaming if you must) then move forward. As teachers, we need more information so we can assist and help others. If someone is blind(and we do not know the person is blind), we can not show them a picture of a giraffe and expect them to know what a giraffe looks like.

No one jumped down anyones throat except everyone else. I have not so you say "given up", theres just nothing more I can do until next week comes. Ive said this already. Many times. I never said I was going to throw out the enclousure idea either. & like I said, not every single BP is going to be the same. Just because its worked for you & your snake does not mean that it will work for me & mine. I didn't ask anyone to dog me on the feeding place. You people are acting like this is some type of sin, & if anyone does it, they're going to get punished for it. There's honestly nothing else anyone on this forum can tell me. I told everyone that I can't get my UTH to go up to 90 because its not sticking right & that I was purchasing a new one this weekend. So if that's the problem, it will be solved; I already knew this. & I've already said I'm going to have to wait a week to try getting him to feed. I know what I have to do. We've established this. Once he's on a regular feeding schedule, I'll go to the next step; feeding outside his container or just continuing with what i was doing. If he doesn't feed next week or the week after that & my temps are good, I'll try other things. But that will happen when that time comes. He didn't eat yesterday, i kept the rat in there while he was awake for like half the night & he didn't eat it. So since I know what I'm going to do, there's really no point in to keep adding on to this forum. Telling me that feeding him in his enclousure will make eat over and over again is not making a slight difference. It's quite irritating actually, because I understood the first time when someone told me nicely.


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Well, best of luck, seems like there is nothing we can tell you that ya don't already know.

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SHELBY: Don't want to but in to this debacle, but the way I see it, when I post anything on a Public Forum, I do so expecting to receive tons of information from a bunch of different people. Thus, I should expect to receive the same advice from a bunch of different people, and since there is a "meta-thought" on most forums, that advice will probably all be the same.

I will tell you right now that when I first started out with BPs, I fed in a separate container as well. And I had a couple of different people let me know (very nicely) that I should feed in the enclosure. I told them I would take their advice under consideration, and then kept on doing what I had been doing. It was not until I had the snake for about 3-4 months that I stopped feeding in a different tank, and that was because he was starting to get a little nippy when he was still in feeding mode after eating in the tub.

What does all this have to do with you?? Like Pyrate said, don't get defensive when you hear everyone saying the same thing or giving the same advice. The sure-fire method of getting people to continue giving advice is to flat-out reject the advice (for whatever reason). Let people know that you appreciate the help, express any concerns, and then move on. I'm pretty sure I said "Thanks, but I'm gonna keep feeding seperate" when I was first told to feed in the tank.


EVERYONE ELSE: Y'all do seem to be hitting her pretty hard…you can't expect everyone to apply all the advice all at once. I'm coming up on owning a snake for 1 year in March, and I'm just now thinking about switching to tubs over tanks. Did people recommend it to me?? YES!! Did I say no?? YES!! But that doesn't make me a bad person for rejecting the advice.

Thank you for not reading what I wrote and keeping your head firmly implanted up your butt. Have a nice day. :)




Meph, I did defend her in terms of people jumping down her throat which she obviously did not see/understand. My messege was not an attack and apparently needed to be defended against. It encompassed everyone as a collective at various points and not just her, proves a point of her hardheaded attitude.

You're cool Pyrate…not directed towards anyone specific either, just at the general attitude begin shown