Spider Head Wobble Please Read

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Originally Posted by TheSnakeGeek

i'd like to know this as well. and i'm sure most everyone else would. unless it's a new gene that's under wraps i see no reason to keep this secret.. and if there is, why tease us?? ;)

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responded before your post. so now irrelevant. ^^

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Originally Posted by majorleaguereptiles

Actually, there might be a cure for spider wobble when bred to another gene.....

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How is that even possible? Curing the effects of one mutation by adding another mutation doesn't seem logical, do they share the same locus? How would that even work?


Edit: looks like you answered my question before I even posted. Sounds like they DO share the same locus. how is the wobble on spiders from the blackhead/spider sires?

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Originally Posted by MarkS

How is that even possible? Curing the effects of one mutation by adding another mutation doesn't seem logical, do they share the same locus? How would that even work?

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Honestly, how it works or why, I really don't have an answer. I would think it would be entirely impossible... I'm still skeptical, only sharing what I know...

And yes, what I said referred the two genes being in the same gene locus... How? Why? I don't know.

i do remember reading somewhere that blackhead and spider acted as a super.. cant remember where.. but if it "cures" the wobble, that is very interesting.. although even if it does "cure" the wobble, if the snake looks normal it's kind of useless to those in love with the spider pattern. interesting nonetheless.

Even if BH spiders get rid of the neuro issue this wouldnt solve the problem in a way most breeders would like it to right? I think most folks are hoping for the phenotype (spider) but without the wobble and unless I'm wrong that theory doesn't solve that problem. It is still pretty interesting on the scientific side of things though for sure.

Yeah, I mean a blackhead spider looks pretty normal but I can tell you the Bh bee is AMAZING... So it's still pretty neat... Bh spiders look sorta like Calicos with age... Pretty weird..

I have other theories....

One thing to think even further about, the one blackhead calico that was made, died....

So, a Bh spider looks like a calico, and maybe allelic, then Bh calico might be lethal?

I've found certain lines of calico to be much weaker/problematic than others...

It really makes me wonder how these genes might have originated in the wild...

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Originally Posted by majorleaguereptiles

I've found certain lines of calico to be much weaker/problematic than others...

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Just for my own edifacition, Which lines and how many generations of breeding have you used to arive at this conclusion. I only ask because I have a couple of different lines I'm working with and would like to hear how you found this, and what you mean by "weaker".

Wow, thanks for the info, very interesting. Wonder if spider and black head could be one extra and one less copy of some encoding so the black head spider has the net same number of copies as a normal just distributed a bit different?

Huh... that's craziness. I'm very glad I read through this thread. I'll be looking forward to more info on this. You *should* start a thread!

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