Thoughts for Clown morphs....

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Originally Posted by RandyRemington

IMHO parthenogenesis happens semi regularly in ball pythons so the only way to be absolutely sure of your hets is if someone would develop a commercial paternity test.

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Then we'd start seeing ball pythons on Maury, "You ARE the father!"

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Originally Posted by don15681

if the mother is the clown and father super pastel then they all would be pastel 100% het clowns.

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In this pairing situation, if the clown female had a parthenogenesis clutch none would be pastel, they would all be clowns? or het clowns? but none would be from the male side, so no pastels.

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Originally Posted by snakesRkewl

In this pairing situation, if the clown female had a parthenogenesis clutch none would be pastel, they would all be clowns? or het clowns? but none would be from the male side, so no pastels.

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agreed, I should of used a normal male to include parthenogenesis. not a superpastel. my point is the only way you can be 100% sure that the hatchlings are 100% hets is if the female is the visual recessive morph. not the male.

parthenogenetic offspring may have anywhere between all and half of the mother's alleles. The offspring having all of the mother's genetic material are called full clones and those having only half are called "half clones". Full clones are usually formed without meiosis. If meiosis occurs, the offspring will get only a fraction of the mother's alleles.

Parthenogenesis: is a form of asexual reproduction in which growth and development of embryos occur without fertilization.
parthenogenesis: = parthenos meaning "virgin", genesis, meaning "birth".


gynogenesis is what I think we see the most of with ball pythons.
gynogenesis: development in which the embryo contains only maternal chromosomes due to activation of an egg by a sperm that degenerates without fusing with the egg nucleus

breeding snakes, who thought we would be getting into bio this much. we should of pay more attention when we were in high school :O

Well.... here's what my 1.0 Clown has waiting for him when he arrives after the holiday hustle.

A 2500g Normal girl and a 1200g Pastel. Both virgins... normal just out of QT today and the Pastel is from Gold Coast Reptiles where I got my 1.0 Pied. Pastel is not the cleanest, but she was a steal.

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/h...Medussa001.jpg

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