Ball Bids Opinions?

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Originally Posted by Simplex

I LOVE this concept.

In theory it is absolutely marvelous

If a 2nd site popped up, ie. morphbidz.com

And was run by a recognized name in the industry. I would happily drop money on bids.

I think .60 is to much for a bid, id be more then happy paying .10-.25.

Its a risk to play no doubt, everyone loses. Except the winner and the seller.

But why not???

Lose 5 auctions in a row and the. Win one, and all of a sudden your even out pretty quick.

Its made clear thats how it works. If icould buy even 50 bids at 10 cents and bid like madman in the last 15 seconds to win an animal for an additional 10 bucks.. Bring it on!!!

While ballbids has some shadiness to it, and a reputation that imo is unrepairable the concept is awesome.

Just my .02

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If someone like NERD or Bob Clark did something like this, it would be amazing.

The owners of Ball Bids are ridiculous though, and anyone who would support them must be stupid. All the threads on here show just that.

There are plenty of fair and honest reptile auctions on the internet.

Look at Ben Siegel Reptiles, NERD, or Bob Clark Reptiles. They have dedicated facebook pages where they host auctions. Their timers are based on the facebook time stamp and they do not require a fee to bid. The clock also does not reset each time someone bids. (Although Ben has one out of a dozen auctions that is a special "over time" auction, where the auction does continues after the end time if someone bids w/i 5 minutes)

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Originally Posted by joepythons

Ok so just for example purpose here.A person wins one of the auctions for a ivory ball python female for $5.89 ok .Now the "breeder" drop ships it for ballbids to you in there name(ballbids) not his because its a secret of who is supplying them.Now the winner receives the ivory and without learning proper Quarintine practice(since ballbids doesnt know either they cant pass on the info) he puts it in his rack with his other 15 snakes.Then sadly 7 days later his whole ball python collection is dead because come to find out the ivory came from a breeder that has recently found out his collection is infected with IBD.So since the winner had no idea who the snake was coming from but if he did he would have avoided them all together.Who do you blame? Of course ballbids tells him you are SOL because it didnt come from us.Then since you have no clue who the snake came from your just SOL.So is this still ok to buy bids and possibly be this person?

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If an individual buys a snake and doesn't quarantine, it's their fault for what happens, it's not all on the seller. I don't support Ballbids, I'd never buy from them, and I would hope that nobody else who takes their hobby seriously would either. It doesn't matter though, we could forever run in circles with these type of arguments. I've seen "het for pastel" balls being sold at reptile shows. I also doubt all the flippers that set up tables properly quarantine their animals. The responsibility should ultimately fall into the hands of the person who purchases the animal. If they want to go cheap and buy from a shady business/person, they're taking a risk. Also, anybody who buys an animal should know how to properly take care of it before they make the purchase. I get tired of hearing people whine and blame others because they didn't want to spend any time doing research first. If somebody doesn't understand basic husbandry and quarantine practices, they have no business owning 15 snakes, as you use in your example.

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Originally Posted by JKPCONSTRICTORS

If an individual buys a snake and doesn't quarantine, it's their fault for what happens, it's not all on the seller. I don't support Ballbids, I'd never buy from them, and I would hope that nobody else who takes their hobby seriously would either. It doesn't matter though, we could forever run in circles with these type of arguments. I've seen "het for pastel" balls being sold at reptile shows. I also doubt all the flippers that set up tables properly quarantine their animals. The responsibility should ultimately fall into the hands of the person who purchases the animal. If they want to go cheap and buy from a shady business/person, they're taking a risk. Also, anybody who buys an animal should know how to properly take care of it before they make the purchase. I get tired of hearing people whine and blame others because they didn't want to spend any time doing research first. If somebody doesn't understand basic husbandry and quarantine practices, they have no business owning 15 snakes, as you use in your example.

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Well if you buy from someone that does know proper husbandry skills at least they can answer any questions a newbie might have.If they ask these diots on ballbids they dont have a clue :rolleyes:.I have seen the het for pastels to at shows and its sad.:mad:

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Originally Posted by joepythons

Well if you buy from someone that does know proper husbandry skills at least they can answer any questions a newbie might have.If they ask these diots on ballbids they dont have a clue :rolleyes:.I have seen the het for pastels to at shows and its sad.:mad:

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I agree. A person will always be better off buying from a knowledgeable and reputable breeder, but they also need to know how to take care of the animal when they get it home. And we all know Ballbids isn't the only shady business in operation. One of the reasons we see so many misidentified and sickly reptiles on Craigslist is because too many people buy animals they don't know anything about. No matter who the seller is, the person who purchases the animal is equally responsible for its well-being.

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Originally Posted by Bobbafett

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If someone like NERD or Bob Clark did something like this, it would be amazing.

The owners of Ball Bids are ridiculous though, and anyone who would support them must be stupid. All the threads on here show just that.

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Thankfully, NERD and Bob Clark wouldn't consider running a penny auction, which are already questionable in nature.

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Originally Posted by stickyalvinroll

it is not a scam if you win, you win simple. but most people dont. it cost money to bid, yes. but would you say the stock market is a scam? would you say the gold rush was a scam? it is just a risk that youll have to take just like in any business. dont hate on it. there has been a lot of different winners with youtube unboxings. all animals look healthy. penny auctions are super hard to win.

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with the last 2 of their auctions ending in a 'do over' I can not justify gambling on a ball python and winning when the site can later say that it does not count. The last 2 'winners' should be absolutely infuriated that they were denied their win.