Madison, my low grade pastel

Still will breed her as a dinker. Maybe the yellow will be genetic. ^_^ :D

Oh definitely. Even most normals pass on their traits to young. Lighter snakes make more lighter snakes.


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Want to know my secret for spotting even very low quality pastels ? It has nothing to do with eyes, because for the longest time I thought all pastels had green eyes, but it has recently been brought to my attention not every single one does.

Anywho. It's the brown out line. Every single pastel I have seen, high yellow, low yellow, orange, blushed or not blushed, every single one has a brown out line. And once you learn to pick it out, there is no mistaking it. Baby to adult, they've all got it.

If you study good body pictures of pastels, you can learn to pick it out really quick. On page three of this thread, post number 22, you can see what I mean. That pastel has a very distinct line midway down it's side where the color changes from brown to yellow. That is the brown out line. On the same page in post 27, you can clearly see the brown out line for the pastel in the bottom pic. On page four, post 40, the line is a little harder to pick out in the second photo, but if you look closely, it's there.

So yes, I agree your lovely little girl is a normal. But perhaps my secret can help you learn to pick out pastel's on your own.

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I also don't use eyes as a determining factor, and it drives me nuts when people say "if the eyes are green, it's a pastel", because that's simply not true. I also have had normals in my collection with green eyes that most definitely were not pastels.

Green eyes can also occur in normals.

I dont see a pastel neither. If you have the time, try to look for pictures of pastels here at Bp.net or even through other search engines. It will give you an idea in what to look for and to determine if a Bp is indeed a pastel or not. Its easy to spot a pastel if you know what to look for. I usually look for the brownout line. Pastels, high or low grade have at least an amount of browning above the yellow coloration.

Yeah to be honest, after looking at her these last couple days I'm going to have to agree that she is just a normal, a bright normal, but a normal. By looking at low grade pastels on the internet and comparing her to them, you can see she doesn't have enough yellow or orange to be pastel. Breeding her to a decent pastel male would be cool though, could probably get some decently bright pastels and normals. It's always good to get a second opinion, thanks for your thoughts everyone. Btw my signature is out dated will change it now.

That's a normal

100% Normal...Not a Pastel. To me, even the lowest quality Pastel is very easy to pick out. You'll get an eye for it eventually.

People like to try to make black and white rules for IDing morphs. In my opinion, most morphs aren't that simple. It usually comes down to a general "look" that each morph has. And to me, it's very hard to explain something that is so fluid and variable.

Either way...Nice snake!

Just got this today wanted to know if it's truly a low-grade pastel best way for someone to tell on my opinion is when they're babies.

I'm sorry how do you post pics on here I'm new?

https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2908/...fefa3618_o.jpg

This is my pastel.

He is not a particularly high quality snake.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2565/...a5b922d7_b.jpg

This is one that's a bit more browned out, but a good shot of the eyes.

You can see a 'brown out' line on most pastels, and even browned out they are noticeably lighter than a normal.