Morph help please???

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Originally Posted by gopherhockey03

Ya the Petco here isn't very reptile savvy... I've helped fix their Tortoise and Leopard Gecko care big time... I asked the manager today and he said they get all their reptiles from a wholesaler from Chicago and he said they are all sent to him as "Normal" ball pythons. He said it was highly unlikely that I would be able to find any info on it. I was also going to take more pictures but he was in his hide :(... So Everyone thinks Pastel?

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Take some more pictures, see if they will let you take it out and hold it in some better light.

Also, sounds like the manager is a moron. I could probably find out who the vendor is for that store... what city is the store in?

2901 32nd Avenue South
Grand Forks, ND 58201
701-746-1996

There's the store! I'm going to the casino I decided if I win over $100 ill go buy it tomorrow. But i'll have to go buy crickets Wednesday so i'll see if I can get more pics then!

$50 bucks and they think it's a normal? Lol I would grab that ASAP big box store or not, that is a deal and a half!

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Originally Posted by Anatopism

that it looks more like a lesser than it does a mojave

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Really??? It looks nothing like a lesser. And if you look at that fist pic and say it looks nothing like a mojave I don't know what to tell you, maybe look up more Mojave's. That is a Light mojave, actually a lot similar to mine from Royal constrictor designs.
http://img.tapatalk.com/48dd5fc8-93e1-329b.jpg
http://img.tapatalk.com/48dd5fc8-9413-37ed.jpg
The one in question
http://img.tapatalk.com/48dd5fc8-9468-bf43.jpg

I'll be the odd one out here, and say I'm not convinced it's not just a light normal. The glass reflections may be wrecking havoc with the colors.

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Originally Posted by Rob

Really??? It looks nothing like a lesser. And if you look at that fist pic and say it looks nothing like a mojave I don't know what to tell you, maybe look up more Mojave's. That is a Light mojave, actually a lot similar to mine from Royal constrictor designs.

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Originally Posted by Anatopism

If anything, it looks more like a lesser due to the yellows/beige/tans in the first picture, but I do NOT think it looks like it could be a lesser, simply that it looks more like a lesser than it does a mojave.

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If it's a mojave, or even a lesser, I think it's a pretty bad example of either morph, at least in the light that it is currently presented in. Not saying it isn't possible it could be a mojave, but if it is, the only reason to buy that snake is for the $50 pricetag, and not because of it's stunning perfection as an example of that morph.

Mojave Pastel Fancy "normal" if it was a female for $50 I would get it. It does look Mojaveish to me most likely a male though.

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Originally Posted by Anatopism

If it's a mojave, or even a lesser, I think it's a pretty bad example of either morph, at least in the light that it is currently presented in. Not saying it isn't possible it could be a mojave, but if it is, the only reason to buy that snake is for the $50 pricetag, and not because of it's stunning perfection as an example of that morph.

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I still don't buy into the whole "poor example" of a morph thing. So much of the value of morphs is personal opinion. And personal opinion varies a lot. What you may consider a excellent example of a morph may look like complete garbage to another guy, and vice versa. To me it looks like a good little pick up other then the fact it's from a big box store.

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Originally Posted by Rob

I still don't buy into the whole "poor example" of a morph thing. So much of the value of morphs is personal opinion. And personal opinion varies a lot. What you may consider a excellent example of a morph may look like complete garbage to another guy, and vice versa. To me it looks like a good little pick up other then the fact it's from a big box store.

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I completely agree, so much of this hobby is subjective and opinion. And in my opinion, it does not look much like a mojave. It has similarities, but it is very far removed from what I consider to be a good looking mojave. Especially in the second picture, where it looks even less like a mojave.

I am not saying it isn't a nice looking snake in it's own right, but I don't buy that it is a mojave. For $50, it makes little difference what it is, if the snake by itself is a good looking, healthy animal. I would still like to see better/more pictures in different light and angles/distances, as it is silly to argue opinion over the only two pictures that make the snake look like two different animals in each.

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Originally Posted by Anatopism

it is silly to argue opinion over the only two pictures that make the snake look like two different animals in each.

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True, I would be interested in seeing more pictures now since there has been so much back and forth on what it is.