Desert! To FAIL or not to FAil??????

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Originally Posted by JayCee

The males are breedable and the combos look cool so they will continue to be produced in high numbers. There are a lot of people that spent a lot of money on them and will continue to breed them to try and recoup some of that money.

So far there really haven't been a lot of adult desert females for sale. When that starts happening the price on deserts will really start to fall. If I had to guess I would say they will get down to the $100-150 range and then stay around there.

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I don't think their price will drop that much and most likely it will only be the females. I can see the females in the $200-300 range.
The males should hold their value better because the only way you can get some of the insane Desert combos is with a male.

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Originally Posted by sookieball

But some video by ralph and kevin
And kevin said himself that there's nothing wrong with the desert girls.

I'm getting one.
I can't not have one and not test for myself.
I also plan on getting a lady caramel for the same reason.

I'll also be making sure to wait till they are over 2 years old and more than (fingers crossed) 2000grams.

I know, wishful thinking but hey.
Gotta dream.

I would not pass up a desert.
Not for a great price and especially for a great example of the gene.

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Originally Posted by RobNJ

Where did you see this??





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I also would like to know where you saw this. Kevin brings up Desert females at about 7:30 on the second Lethal Combos video. He certainly does not say there's nothing wrong with them. He, like everyone else that has doubts, just wants to see a single video or pic proving females can successfully breed.

If there's a different video where there's more information known, please post the link or youtube title.

I'm amazed at how many people say infertile when speaking of the desert gene.
It's not a fertility issue at all as far as I understand.

More like failure to lay viable eggs. Slugs / egg binding etc from how I understand it.

I can see how that translates over to infertility though. Has there ever been a fertile egg removed from a desert female? (IE an egg bound fertile egg?) Or has it always been slugs?

I love deserts and the way they come out. If you are going to breed them. Just remember you may very well be sitting on the females. If you love the morph though I don't think it's a problem. I think I'd love to have one female just as a pet. They are gorgeous animals. Now the only thing that would have to come down is the price. I'd love a female Mojave desert. Or a female pin desert. But they'd have to be at the right price before I pick one up as a pet.


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If they can produce viable eggs but cannot lay them it might be possible to "deliver" the eggs by C-section like they do for bulldogs.

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Originally Posted by Theodore Tibbitts

If they can produce viable eggs but cannot lay them it might be possible to "deliver" the eggs by C-section like they do for bulldogs.

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How many C-sections can you give a ball python before it becomes unbreedable???

I'm sure Vet bills would shoot the price up on an already fail morph

The desert gene is very beautiful and has so much potential. I love the Tiger morph that can be made. That being said, ProExotics has been working with them for years as well as Nerd and BHB. No success so far. I am sure that eventually someone will figure out what is going on and be able to produce viable eggs. I recently saw an adult Desert female for only $400, it killed me to walk away.

Not sure, I'm not a vet. I'm just saying other artificially selected animals have had similiar problems, and solutions have been found. Unless the females cannot be fertilized at all it seems likely that some procedure could be developed eventually which allows breeding. Whether such would be "worth it" is another question.

So combos with deserts are pointless wouldn't y'all agree?