Please help, I need help determining if these are fires...

Fire X YB don't make BELs. The only thing that can make a BlkEL are Fires & Sulfurs. Breed it to a YB, you still might have a hard time telling if they are Fires.

They look like fires to me. Maybe not the best example of a fire but still. Hope you went with these, you could make some black eyed lucys next year :)

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Originally Posted by Vitto

Fire X YB don't make BELs. The only thing that can make a BlkEL are Fires & Sulfurs. Breed it to a YB, you still might have a hard time telling if they are Fires.

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I was saying that I wanted to buy a fire yellowbelly male for the female that way if she is fire I will get BELs and if she turned out to be spector I would get super stripes. Then I would know if she was fire or spector for sure. If she is a fire she is a very brown fire, but in person she really looks spector...

Finally had a little sun today :D

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There's a lady in the Sac. area that deals with specters and is hatching out a few clutches of superstripes. She would know for sure. She's very nice and I've gotten a female pastel from her that I'm happy with.
Let me know if you want her Fauna name and you can PM her.

Vitto

I would really appreciate that!
:)

If you buy fires make sure they are from somebody that has a proven line,they are very easy to tell from normals if you cant tell they are normals.

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Originally Posted by greghall

If you buy fires make sure they are from somebody that has a proven line,they are very easy to tell from normals if you cant tell they are normals.

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They definitely arent normals, they look like browned fires, but the female looks more like a spector IMO. She definitely doesnt look normal.

took them to a local breeder of fires today to compare them. In my opinion and his opinion they are fires thru and thru. They are a little darker than I would like, but fires they are. On another note, the female is male. He must have been clinching on me really good when I sexed him before buying him, probed 3 scales both sides. My sexing skills arent the greatest I will admit, but I thought he popped male. That is ok tho, got a good enough deal on them that that is still fine. Will sell it as male just in case. Thanks for everyones help! It is much appreciated...