Please help, very sick ball python!

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Originally Posted by adamjeffery

honestly just putting im in a container and placing im in the freezer is just fine at this point.
adam jeffery

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Freezing is NOT a humane form of euthanasia for reptiles and should NEVER be used.

This is an article written by DVM. Adolf Mass, a very reputable herp vet.
http://www.pnwhs.org/Articles/Freezi...orm-euthanasia

To the OP, I'm sorry for your loss.

So sorry for your loss.

By the looks of the pics he was sick for a while and probably not eating at all.
Sorry for your loss

I'm really sorry for your loss, and this is hard to say, but if there are no herp vets anywhere near you maybe you should stick with tarantulas and leave out the reptiles.

Thanks to Maixx, that was a very interesting article.

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Originally Posted by Maixx

Freezing is NOT a humane form of euthanasia for reptiles and should NEVER be used.

This is an article written by DVM. Adolf Mass, a very reputable herp vet.
http://www.pnwhs.org/Articles/Freezi...orm-euthanasia

To the OP, I'm sorry for your loss.

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Too late to edit, and changed by my phones auto spell check.
-- This article was written by DVM. Adolf Maas

http://www.theexoticvet.com/index.html

very sorry to hear of your loss.

before you jump to IBD though, is it possible that there was some sort of chemical that the snake could have absorbed through it's skin? scented laundry detergent used to wash the carpet, or oxy clean, etc?

suffer for hours waiting to die on your own or die within minutes???? hmm i know what choice i would make. animal is suffering either way. trip to vet would take longer than time spent in freezer to pass. neither is a humane way to die.
adam jeffery

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Originally Posted by adamjeffery

suffer for hours waiting to die on your own or die within minutes???? hmm i know what choice i would make. animal is suffering either way. trip to vet would take longer than time spent in freezer to pass. neither is a humane way to die.
adam jeffery

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"Chilling a herp to death is an awful way to die, and, could they speak, they would describe it as torture. The American Veterinary Medical Association and the American Association of Zoological Veterinarians classify this as cruel treatment of animals and animal abuse and the Association of Reptile and Amphibian Veterinarians categorize it as an unacceptable method of euthanasia, as well. If a veterinarian recommended this to you, it could be categorized as malpractice."

"As a result, reptiles and amphibians can feel their body get cold, which produces pain, but they can do nothing about it. Studies show that they can, literally, feel their cells freeze and rupture as they get further chilled, sensing pain as intensely as if they were being burned alive,"

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Freezing is not an acceptable practice period!
There are other methods that are acceptable such as instantaneous decapetation or destruction of the brain that do not require a vet visit, and while seeming barbaric to us, it is far more humane then freezing.
There is even debate over decapitation, that some reptiles with very slow metabolism will survive (mentally aware) for several minutes after the head is severed, leading many to say that brain destruction (instantly crushing the skull) is the fastest and most humane, drug free method of euthanasia.
Freezing might be easier for the owner to perform, as opposed to crushing the skull of a loved friend, but its not about the owner, its the owners responsibility to make quick and painless.

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Originally Posted by Brion99

I'm really sorry for your loss, and this is hard to say, but if there are no herp vets anywhere near you maybe you should stick with tarantulas and leave out the reptiles.

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Very sorry for you loss...