Is my Bp sick????????

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Originally Posted by Jeremy78

Hey there,

Interesting read. I'm wondering if all your snakes are on a dimmer? If they are I'd try getting a thermostat.

Do you have a high low thermometer? One that tells you what the lowest temp and the highest temp was? Dimmers change with the surroundings if it's cooler in the house the temp of the hot spot will go down. How are you checking the temps? Is it the same thermometer? Maybe you have a faulty thermometer. How big is your hot spot? How big are the the tubs? What substrate are you using? Are you taking the temp from the top of the substrate or the bare plastic? What type of hot spot are you using?

Just trying to help.

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I have a herpstat on the rack. Temp gun and probe therms. Hot spot is 1/2 tub. Bare plastic (very thin substrate). Flexwatt.

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Originally Posted by RichsBallPythons

No high humidity is needed during sickness.

Try to keep the cool side/ air temp min 85 and hot side 95. Minimal handling and stop the soakings(stress). Just mist the tub and keep humidity up. Stress will cause the meds to do absolutely nothing. I would also keep her in the tub and not the tank.

Just give her the shot, mist the tub, keeps temps up and leave her alone. No handling or feeding at all, just handle her when giving meds.

Also when giving shots, im surprised the Vet advised a new series of meds right after previous series. This is how livers get damaged and meds dont work as they get immune to it. Most vets advice 2 weeks on 1-2 weeks off before starting new series

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The soaks seemed to help the first snake, I have been handling only to medicate with a very short tub soak after then back into enclosure. The first series did not work so we switched because she was getting worse. I am only using the tank because it is my last option. I only have so many heat sources, thermometers, etc. The tank (divided) holds 2 snakes and the tub holds one. Anyway, I switched from tub to tank with the female because the vet suggested she may be sensitive to the out gassing from the plastic.

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Originally Posted by AkHerps

I meant, that the humidity is that high ALL the time. Could that cause the RI problems?

Unless I didn't read the part where the OP said they bumped the humidity up. I just read that they bumped up the heat.

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Humidity is what it is, SW Florida is humid. Sometimes it gets a bit lower but usually above 60% and almost never below 40% year round.

Update: 4-16-11

Well all seems to be going well. The female had a shot yesterday and took a mouse and ate it today. She is showing zero signs of RI. She has two shots left, one tomorrow and one Tuesday then she is done. The male looked much better after the first shot and had his third shot today. I see zero saliva outside his mouth and his tongue flicks are now 75% normal. He still has a bit of a ways to go but both are recovering nicely. The male is bigger than the female and I think I began treatment earlier for him - hence the faster response. I just hope none of my other Bps get it before it is over. Snakes hate shots!

Shots are no fun for anyone. But I'd sounds like they are doing better. That's a good things. Hopefully everyone else stays well for you.

Keep up the good work! Great post.

Thanks for showing me your thread it should help out alot!!!!:gj:

Update 4-21-11

Well, the male het pied ate today but the female refused. I gave her her last shot yesterday and she still had a hint of symptoms. That coupled with not taking (but striking at) her mouse today I am afraid she still has RI. Either way, she has had quite enough for now so no more abos for a while. This is so frustrating. I have heard that sometimes it takes a really long time for snakes to get over sickness due to their slow metabolisms but we are approaching a month with this girl.

Easter update: The female took a fresh mouse today (she refused her refrozen one from last week!). The male is getting to be a PITA for taking his shots. He HATES them and tries to wiggle and buck and bite when he feels the poke. It is getting super hard to get the meds in him without him breaking off the needle. He has two shots left then I am done. Gheeze.

It's interesting that he bucks do much. All of the rescues I've ever had to do iv abos with have just sat there. Well at least he has fight in him. My vet always gives me insulin syringes bc the other syringes that he has are huge and I could see an animal bucking around. Is yours having you use the insulin ones? Or are they much bigger? Usually the insulin ones have the orange needle cover. He had the same issue with a female rescue that he gave a shot in the office so to avoid that he gave me the insulin ones. Maybe you could pick one or two up from a pharmacy?