Pied options, breeding tips.

I was just trying to show my work. It really doesnt take me much time to figure out the genetics, I do it at work all the time and Ijust run it all through my head. But figured I'd show you how I get the results for genetic pairings, instead of just posting only the results and it looking like some magical knowledge other people have that you cant understand :P

Breeding 2 pastel het pieds together is easy to just do off the results from each gene's punnet square.

Likelihood they get Pastel gene:

25% Normal
50% Pastel
25% Super Pastel (typical Pp x Pp style square)

Likelihood they get Pied:
25% Normal
50% Het Pied
25% Pied (again, typical het x het square)

The 75% that form the Normal/Het Pied are all 66% Het Pied (that's the likelihood they are hets, because you cant tell the difference between Het Pied and Normal)

Combine these and you get:

18.75 Normal 66% Het Pied
6.25 Pied
37.5 Pastel 66% Het Pied
12.5 Pastel Pied
18.75 Super Pastel 66% Het Pied
6.75 Super Pastel Pied

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Originally Posted by Oxylepy

I was just trying to show my work. It really doesnt take me much time to figure out the genetics, I do it at work all the time and Ijust run it all through my head. But figured I'd show you how I get the results for genetic pairings, instead of just posting only the results and it looking like some magical knowledge other people have that you cant understand :P

Breeding 2 pastel het pieds together is easy to just do off the results from each gene's punnet square.

Likelihood they get Pastel gene:

25% Normal
50% Pastel
25% Super Pastel (typical Pp x Pp style square)

Likelihood they get Pied:
25% Normal
50% Het Pied
25% Pied (again, typical het x het square)

The 75% that form the Normal/Het Pied are all 66% Het Pied (that's the likelihood they are hets, because you cant tell the difference between Het Pied and Normal)

Combine these and you get:

18.75 Normal 66% Het Pied
6.25 Pied
37.5 Pastel 66% Het Pied
12.5 Pastel Pied
18.75 Super Pastel 66% Het Pied
6.75 Super Pastel Pied

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Wow just unlimited potential. Thanks again. I think im starting to get it. I get the punnet square things with recessives, but mixing that with doms and codoms is what gets me :P

Actually one of my g/f's friends has a pastel. I know she doesnt take very good care of it and never see's it (lives at her moms house) I wonder if I could get it off her hands for like 50 bucks or something.

If it's a female, totally... if it's a male: Dont bother breeding it to your females. Why would you? You can just trade one of your pied offspring off for a pastel het pied (which you can breed to your Pied, try and get a pastel pied, then breed that to your pastel het pied and try for a super pastel pied), or for some other morph containing pastel. Those pieds are worth a good bit, everyone loves pieds, and why waste breeding it to anything else right now, breed the pieds, and you can potentially pay for the hobby for a couple years and trade for new morphs.

pastel pieds are HAWT. jkobylka has some haawt hawt hawt pastel pieds.


u should check his site for hets :gj:

and watch his youtube vids :bow:

I would tend to lean pied on pied this year and next year expand out....adding new snakes to collection does not mean immediate ready for breeding, sometimes transitions, new home etc can delay that process longer then you think. Just my two cents....

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Originally Posted by Kysenia

I would tend to lean pied on pied this year and next year expand out....adding new snakes to collection does not mean immediate ready for breeding, sometimes transitions, new home etc can delay that process longer then you think. Just my two cents....

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Right now im shooting for not this winter but next winter. But wont dont it till they are plump and ready

Here is what I would do if I was in your shoes. Get a female albino. Grow everyone up. Then put your male with your normal, Pied and Albino. Give em some Barry White time with each female. Then you will have 100% het Pieds (from the normal), All pieds (from the Pied female) and DH Albino/Pieds (from the Albino). Choose what snakes your going to hold back. ALSO With Pieds, just because you breed a high white to a high white DOESN NOT mean they will all come out high white. It is compleatly random how much white there will be. Personally I would hold back the low white females and sell the high white (They go for more) I would also recommend holding back ATLEAST 1.2 DH Albino/Pieds to breed back to each other. Like others have said, Inbreeding does not cause the issues seen in humans. Then sell off the rest of the offspring. You should have a decent amount that you can invest in feeders/rat rack, Buy a morph, or my favorite hookers and blow (lol ok Im jk about that part) Remember the biggest rule to breeding. Breed for what YOU like and you will always be happy. I would recomend getting a book called The Complete Ball Python: A Comprehensive Guide to Care, Breeding and Genetic Mutations. Here is a link to it on amazon. http://www.amazon.com/Complete-Ball-.../dp/9780971319 . I beleave it is a must have and it will explain ALOT including genetics ect.