Spider wobble in full effect

This is a video I just posted. Seems this is a good place to link it.
"This is my "wobble-less" spider girl. I have never seen her wobble, but after close observation, ... she does have problems. Take this video for example. Every snake has a bad day, especially young snakes- but this is an adult. This is not the first time this has happened to her. (Though I don't recall her ever giving up before) She tries to eat her rat from the wrong end, can't seem to find the head at all, then seems to lose it altogether. After this video she gave up and would not even strike at a fresh meal. This problem has also been observed in my bumblebees (pastel spider).
I know these problems could be bred out if breeders would take an interest in breeding only the best, strongest and healthiest snakes and STOP breeding the deformed and retarded just to make a quick buck...."

YouTube - The Bambi Project

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Originally Posted by Payton MacDonald

How do you assist him?

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If he keeps missing the rat I'll hold it against his neck so he feels it and he'll coil around it with no bite.

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Originally Posted by bad-one

Wow, that looks crazy! My girl has a little bit of a feeding thing too though

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that is one gorgeous spider!

i would nick name him stevie wonder :P

I've had my normal eat a couple rats backwards or try, before letting it go and searching out the head.

Considering that the orginal male had the wobble, I don't see how it could be bred out since all spiders descended from him. Wobbles can be just a simple head tilt, or not righting itself immediately when placed on it's back to full on corkscrews.

I am a firm believe that it is always there, no matter how subtle.

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Originally Posted by DesignerBP

that is one gorgeous spider!

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Thanks! Your guy is great looking too, I love high whites :D

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Originally Posted by starrlamia

if it was a slight wobble in which it had no ill effects on the animal, I can almost understand that, but any animal IMO who cannot eat on its own because its so handicapped from the wobble should not be bred, and perhaps should have been culled. As much as it is a pretty morph I highly believe in breeding animals who are healthy and strong, which a bad wobble doesnt show.

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He can definitely eat on his own. Captive snakes depend on the owner to offer them food in the first place; helping it get a good coil around its food is not much less extreme of a dependence imo.

If you spent $25K on a Spider back in the day, and found out it had this issue once you received your snake, would you go blabbing that Spiders have issues? Of course not...you would probably keep quiet until you made some money back on your investment.

Dave

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Originally Posted by Delilah

This is a video I just posted. Seems this is a good place to link it.
"This is my "wobble-less" spider girl. I have never seen her wobble, but after close observation, ... she does have problems. Take this video for example. Every snake has a bad day, especially young snakes- but this is an adult. This is not the first time this has happened to her. (Though I don't recall her ever giving up before) She tries to eat her rat from the wrong end, can't seem to find the head at all, then seems to lose it altogether. After this video she gave up and would not even strike at a fresh meal. This problem has also been observed in my bumblebees (pastel spider).
I know these problems could be bred out if breeders would take an interest in breeding only the best, strongest and healthiest snakes and STOP breeding the deformed and retarded just to make a quick buck...."

YouTube - The Bambi Project

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You really don't see her wobble? She's wobbling as soon as she releases the ASF. The twisting of her body before she released it is also very typical of the spider wobble/spin behavior as well. In some spiders it can be so subtle, that unless you know what you're looking for (or want to convince yourself that yours doesn't wobble) you won't see it.

I think that you're going to be very disappointed if you truly believe that the wobble can be bred out of the spider. Even the most "stable" spider can throw trainwreck babies. It's not about breeders out to make a quick buck - especially with the price of spiders today, there are many other morphs that can be worked with to "make a buck" with. Most people who keep and breed spiders do so because they love morph, even with its quirks.

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Originally Posted by rabernet

You really don't see her wobble? She's wobbling as soon as she releases the ASF. The twisting of her body before she released it is also very typical of the spider wobble/spin behavior as well.

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I noticed that too, I thought maybe it was just me at first.