does outback reptiles have a good reputation?

Any breeder that sells at Reptile shows will buy, sell and trade with other breeders. Sometimes a breeder will take a trade in from a customer. If you want to call them fliippers, then yes most are flippers.

However, I consider a flipper as being someone that doesn't breed their own snakes at all, buys from others, and sells these reptiles at shows.

Outback has been known to buy from others and turning over the reptiles later. Go to any show and you'll see them buying snakes. I was at a show recently and saw them buy 2 albino and 3 het for albino ball pythons for $350. I was hoping I could have met the guy before he got to their table. I would have loved to pick them up for that kind of money.

Does this make Outback a bad company to buy from? I don't think so.
As far as the Geckos, this was bad. No excuse for letting these animals out of the shop. There was no reason for that kind of mistake.

Sorry Josh.
Jim Smith

Big Gunns will let you all in a nasty leeeetle secret. He shouldn't do so, but he will. Every single large breeder in the bizz could be considered a "flipper" if selling even a few snakes they didn't produce is considered "flipping".

Most of them will get the animals in trade, but many will go out and purchase them. Big Gunns sees it a lot with exports. If a breeder has a large export and their customer wants something they don't have, the breeder will try and find it for them to add to their export.

Some do it a lot more than others. Some of the big time flippers even have important blogs on the net. It's a part of the bizz. All you need to do is ask the breeder if he/she produced it. If they're honest, and most are, they'll tell you the truth. Some however, never will, they'll tell you it's their bloodline to get more money, then go and write their important blog.:taz:


For some reason "flipping" has become a four letter word. If you don't like someone that resells any animals, you're probably going to need to buy from someone that has less than 20 snakes. It will be very hard to find someone with more that has NEVER flipped an animal. They may say they NEVER have, but there's a good chance they have.

All Big Gunns is trying to say is this. Don't just assume because someone flips some animals that they have junk. Many people that flip will sell you an animal that's every bit as healthy as anyone else. It is however your choice as the buyer to buy from whomever you choose. If you don't like someone who "flips", it's your choice not to buy from them. Remember though, you may be buying from a HUGE FLIPPER, who is in fact just a HUGE LIAR.... and you just don't know it. BG does though.:D