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  • 12-13-2009, 01:48 PM
    BPHERP
    Re: I want to get this around!
    Captive Reptile related fatalities in USA (includes salmonella)

    1-in-2,681,245

    SOURCES: National Center for Health Statistics, CDC; American Cancer Society; National Safety Council; International Federation of Red Cross
    and Red Crescent Societies; World Health Organization; USGS; Clark Chapman, SwRI; David Morrison, NASA; Michael Paine, Planetary Society Australian Volunteers
  • 12-13-2009, 02:11 PM
    cgator
    Re: I want to get this around!
  • 12-13-2009, 02:21 PM
    Mendel's Balls
    Re: Wow is all I have to say
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Crazy4Herps View Post
    It is my personal opinion that people with weak immune systems should be outdoors a bit more often around all the "harmful" bacteria and disease. That's how the immune system works; exposure.

    And salmonella my foot! I never wash my hands after handling snakes (with the obvious exception of QT'ed snakes, but that's for their health, not mine) and have let them hang out in the kitchen and dining room for years and the only person in my household who has ever had salmonella acquired it from undercooked eggs.

    Your personal opinion is wrong. If your immune system is compromised that means that it doesn't work like a normal persons by exposing it to potentially infectious substances.
  • 12-13-2009, 03:06 PM
    Quiet Tempest
    Re: Wow is all I have to say
    Just out of curiosity, did any of you contact HSUS regarding this article and the facts that contradict it?

    http://www.humanesociety.org/about/contact
  • 12-13-2009, 03:19 PM
    Adam_Wysocki
    Re: Wow is all I have to say
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Quiet Tempest View Post
    Just out of curiosity, did any of you contact HSUS regarding this article and the facts that contradict it?

    http://www.humanesociety.org/about/contact

    The National Pet Association currently has a couple of biology/herpetology students reviewing the HSUS websites information about pet reptiles and pet reptile ownership. Any inaccuracies will be noted and corrections will be offered with references cited to verify the accuracy of the corrections.

    Afterward, a comprehensive package with all of the results and a letter asking the Humane Society to updated their website with correct information about pet reptiles and keeping reptiles as pets will be sent to members of the board of directors of HSUS as well as senior HSUS staff. Major national media outlets will also all receive a copy of the package.

    Stay tuned.

    www.natpet.org

    Blessings,

    -adam
  • 12-13-2009, 05:31 PM
    j_h_smith
    Re: I want to get this around!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bamf64 View Post
    isnt the second amendment the right to bear arms?

    Yes, that's what I was saying, we have an amendment that covers the right of the people to own firearms and for years we've lost a little more of our rights every year. So, my point was, if the 2nd can be ignored, how can we expect our representatives to listen to a few thousand hobbyist talking about don't ban my snake, but the other snakes are okay to ban.

    We need to speak their language, we have to tell them in no uncertain terms, if you vote for this bill, you will lose my vote.

    We need to tell them that this is not the responsibilty of the Federal government. This is a state issue and does not need to be addressed by them.

    Jim Smith
  • 12-13-2009, 05:44 PM
    LotsaBalls
    Re: I want to get this around!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by j_h_smith View Post
    Yes, that's what I was saying, we have an amendment that covers the right of the people to own firearms and for years we've lost a little more of our rights every year. So, my point was, if the 2nd can be ignored, how can we expect our representatives to listen to a few thousand hobbyist talking about don't ban my snake, but the other snakes are okay to ban.

    We need to speak their language, we have to tell them in no uncertain terms, if you vote for this bill, you will lose my vote.

    We need to tell them that this is not the responsibilty of the Federal government. This is a state issue and does not need to be addressed by them.

    Jim Smith

    :gj:
  • 12-16-2009, 01:57 AM
    Eventide
    Re: Wow is all I have to say
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Nate View Post
    This makes a lot of sense if you look at it from their angle. And honestly, I agree with it, to an extent.

    Have you ever worked at an animal shelter? like, a real rescue center?

    Dogs and Cats ARE over populated, and there are disgusting puppy mills out there that help to drive that commercial industry. Little Sue has to have that $1,000 dollar puppy at the puppy mart because it just looks so cute. 6 months later, we'd receive it at the SPCA.

    There are a LOT of good animals in shelters - and I learned that first hand.

    I agree there are way too many dogs and cats, both in shelters and in the street. However, HSUS's own stance on pets seems to be that no animal should ever be bought or sold. Sounds like they're okay with adopting pets, but that's it. So what happens when there are no more animals to adopt? Oh, hey, cool, no more animals kept as pets! Hooray!
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