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That's terrible, I hate to see breeders who will sell animals that aren't feeding, and then claim they're healthy. I see skinny baby balls at shows sometimes, and it's obvious the animal hasn't eaten in many weeks...yet they're selling it along with healthy animals!

Very sorry for your loss. Have you been in contact with the seller about some sort of refund? You should not have to take that loss if you were sold a sick snake. :confused:

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Originally Posted by lillyorchid

Dr. Gold said he looked like a newly hatched baby who hadn't shed yet. I told him he hatched back in July so he was surprised and said he was severly under weight from hatching in July and it appered that he had never eaten before. I said that he had poo'd the day I got him but other then that he never went again. I told him how he regured and he went on to say that could alone kill a baby snake, I knew this but I was not expecting it since all but 2 snakes I've ever had have been babies when I bought them. He said that Flagyl would be the best for him but it may be to late. I kind of knew it last week, he just seemed like he gave up on everything. Also he wasn't drinking on his own which was another major problem. Sadly I think he hatched out with some issues and was one of those who wasn't made to make it. He was so neat looking. At this time I don't plan on having a necropsy done.

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This is some new information that BG didn't know. The fact that you said your snake "poo'd" when you got him tells Big Gunns that he had in fact ate and digested a meal. BG doesn't want to come down on you, but in fairness...he must. This new revelation tells BG that this leeetle guy may have been saved if a Vet visit was much earlier. He must have been eating(might have been assisted though)....and he could digest a meal since he "poo'd".:D

Don't be mad at BG Lilly, but this needs to be pointed out so that other people can learn. Looking at the two posts after yours is one of the reasons why. Big Gunns realizes you know how to take care of snakes from what you've stated before, but in this case it appears something went wrong. Big Gunns is not gonna be a hypocrite here, he has realized how serious regurgitation is the hard way himself. It is much more serious in baby boas.

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Originally Posted by WingedWolfPsion

That's terrible, I hate to see breeders who will sell animals that aren't feeding, and then claim they're healthy. I see skinny baby balls at shows sometimes, and it's obvious the animal hasn't eaten in many weeks...yet they're selling it along with healthy animals!

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Originally Posted by illini4x4

Very sorry for your loss. Have you been in contact with the seller about some sort of refund? You should not have to take that loss if you were sold a sick snake. :confused:

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These are the kinda posts that always get BG mad. We have one side of the story here(Lilly's) and when BG looks at all the facts, he's not so sure the breeder is completely at fault.(it wasn't BG or a friend).

Although BG feels sorry for Lilly, looking at all the facts of this case, it's hard for BG to blame only the breeder. BG does not want to seem like a jerk here(he usually loves it), but this really needs to be said so everyone can benefit from it. BG and Lilly have learned the hard way, the rest of you don't need to.

Regurgitation in baby snakes can be SERIOUS!!!!!! You must not "take it lightly". It is much worse in baby boas, but can be just as lethal in Balls.

ps. Why does BG always edit his posts one minute after he posts them? Answer....because he tries to hurry up and post them before he gets "signed out"...then after he does and goes back and reads them...he always finds some mistake. LOL

Big Gunns is gonna give a leeetle life lesson people. Pay attention...this is very important stuff(like everything BG says).

We all have friends that come to us with problems. When a friend does, try and be "objective". Most people(99% of them) will just agree with whatever someone is telling them. Say for instance a friend comes to you with a problem with their bf/gf. Most friends will just agree with whatever their friend says, instead of looking at both sides and seeing exactly who's fault it really was. Some of this BG is sure is outta ..."I'm too lazy and don't really care", but for the rest that do actually care about their friend....are you really helping them by just agreeing with them?


Big Gunns point is this. If you really want to solve a problem, don't be afraid to take the other side. The "not so popular one". There is a reason BG's friends call him and ask him his expert advice. These smart friends know he's not gonna "blow smoke you know where". They know BG is gonna tell them exactly what he thinks, even if it's not what they wanna hear. This is what is really gonna help your friend.

The next time your friend...or anyone...comes to you and is complaining about someone....play "devils advocate" and look at the other side. Get all the facts. Don't just nod your head in agreement. This helps nobody. Your friend might get mad at first, but when they calm down, they should realize you're really just trying to help. Don't be a wuss. If they're an idiot...tell them so.

ps. BG's problem is he plays "devils advocate" a leeetle too much sometimes, but someone needs to.:D