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  • 11-25-2017, 08:51 PM
    bcr229
    Re: ring of white puffiness around eyes, and there are tiny small white bugs! :(
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by redshepherd View Post
    Does anyone know who sells provent-a-mite that would have faster shipping? Or where to buy it in person?

    Go to a drug store or WalMart, Target, etc. Get a 2 oz bottle of the NIX lice treatment cream rinse that contains permethrin. Mix that with a gallon of clean water to make an effective mite spray.
  • 11-25-2017, 09:20 PM
    redshepherd
    Re: ring of white puffiness around eyes, and there are tiny small white bugs! :(
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bcr229 View Post
    Go to a drug store or WalMart, Target, etc. Get a 2 oz bottle of the NIX lice treatment cream rinse that contains permethrin. Mix that with a gallon of clean water to make an effective mite spray.

    Would wiping this solution on furniture and outside of the tub and stuff be an okay replacement for PAM? Or does it only work when wet, like the reptile soray?
  • 11-25-2017, 09:36 PM
    Sauzo
    Re: ring of white puffiness around eyes, and there are tiny small white bugs! :(
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by redshepherd View Post
    Would wiping this solution on furniture and outside of the tub and stuff be an okay replacement for PAM? Or does it only work when wet, like the reptile soray?

    I too have asked lots of people this question and no one seems to know. It's worth trying while waiting for the PAM to arrives as worst case, it loses effectiveness when dried. Best case it keeps the effectiveness when dried. I would try it. Also can check your reptile shops. I know my reptile shop stocks it and I also live close to Bean Farm so i can just drive out there and pick up a couple cans from them if needed which is what i did when i found a couple mites on Luna. I now keep a couple cans handy in case i get hitchhikers again.
  • 11-25-2017, 10:12 PM
    bcr229
    The active ingredient in PAM is permethrin. The active ingredient in the NIX is permethrin. Permethrin has a half-life of 30 days if kept out of direct sunlight, that is shortened to about a week if used outside as a kennel/livestock spray. Permethrin will remain effective at killing the mites even when dried and it can be sprayed on the tubs, hides, rack, carpet, etc. You can also spray the paper you use as substrate with it, just make sure it dries completely before putting your snake back on it. I would also keep a supply of treated and dried paper on-hand to use so that you can replace the soiled paper with it when your snake makes a mess.
  • 11-25-2017, 11:16 PM
    redshepherd
    Re: ring of white puffiness around eyes, and there are tiny small white bugs! :(
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bcr229 View Post
    The active ingredient in PAM is permethrin. The active ingredient in the NIX is permethrin. Permethrin has a half-life of 30 days if kept out of direct sunlight, that is shortened to about a week if used outside as a kennel/livestock spray. Permethrin will remain effective at killing the mites even when dried and it can be sprayed on the tubs, hides, rack, carpet, etc. You can also spray the paper you use as substrate with it, just make sure it dries completely before putting your snake back on it. I would also keep a supply of treated and dried paper on-hand to use so that you can replace the soiled paper with it when your snake makes a mess.

    Thank you! Also, that's a really good idea about keeping treated paper.
  • 11-26-2017, 08:02 AM
    DLena
    Be persistent. Don’t think things are safe just because you do t see them after 4-5 weeks.
    Top off your Amazon order with some new plants and vines. :)
  • 11-26-2017, 08:07 PM
    redshepherd
    Re: ring of white puffiness around eyes, and there are tiny small white bugs! :(
    Is this a reliable guide for Nix...? It instructs to spray directly on the snake as well, but not sure I trust this. Since PAM shouldn't be sprayed on the snake.

    http://bamboozoo.weebly.com/snakes-n...treatment.html

    Other than that part, I assume Nix works the same way as PAM in that once it dries completely inside the enclosure, it is safe for the snake to live in?

    I've just sprayed everywhere with Nix solution and waiting for it to dry LOL.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by DLena View Post
    Be persistent. Don’t think things are safe just because you do t see them after 4-5 weeks.
    Top off your Amazon order with some new plants and vines. :)

    for sure! I'm going to respray with PAM a week or two from now.
  • 11-26-2017, 11:04 PM
    bcr229
    I've never sprayed a permetrin-based product directly on a snake. It's not needed since the mites will walk on the treated paper during the off-snake stages of their life cycle. I use Reptile Spray on the snake.
  • 11-26-2017, 11:40 PM
    redshepherd
    Re: ring of white puffiness around eyes, and there are tiny small white bugs! :(
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bcr229 View Post
    I've never sprayed a permetrin-based product directly on a snake. It's not needed since the mites will walk on the treated paper during the off-snake stages of their life cycle. I use Reptile Spray on the snake.

    Awesome, sounds good! That's what I've done.
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