Yafe - Albino Carpet Progression Thread

That’s a good looking snake!! Congrats!

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Originally Posted by Bogertophis

That's a very helpful video, thanks zina10....& I think it's a good idea for Yafe too, considering he still has symptoms.

Dakski, the lack of a tongue flick can indicate there's a sticky infection of some sort going on, the same thing that causes the little popping noises as the
air tries to push thru. Tongue flicks aren't just a "happy snake" but the sign of a healthy snake too.
When it's harder to flick their tongue, they just don't do it. I'm glad you contacted your vets, but so sorry that it was necessary. C'mon Yafe, get well! :please:

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That's why I am worried. I might to have been clear in my post. I should have said happy and healthy snakes flick their tongue.

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Originally Posted by zina10

I don't mean to scare you, but I've heard a lot about Nido Virus. Apparently it is far more wide spread then previously thought. Esp. since not all breeders are very forth coming with admitting it may be in their collection. Or they just don't test.
Esp. with Carpet Pythons..it wouldn't hurt to rule it out.
Here is one video that explains how to do the test from home

https://youtu.be/g6IzrBZSZqA


Another video


https://youtu.be/j2YMvgwrNDw


Again. Not tying to worry or scare you. But it may not be such a bad idea to run the test. Esp. since things haven't progressed the way they should have. At least you would know...or you could rule it out.


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I'll look into this.






Yafe is returning to the vet for a re-check and/or to get more antibiotics on Wednesday (5 days). That will give time to see if things clear up after the last injection.

I am not happy at all. Very worried about other things going on now beyond just an RI.

Fingers crossed for you all Dave

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Originally Posted by dakski

That's why I am worried. I might to have been clear in my post. I should have said happy and healthy snakes flick their tongue.



Yafe is returning to the vet for a re-check and/or to get more antibiotics on Wednesday (5 days). That will give time to see if things clear up after the last injection.

I am not happy at all. Very worried about other things going on now beyond just an RI.

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Well, you know that URI can take time. I've heard of snakes being on meds for a couple of month before they completely got rid of it. So not all hope is lost by a long shot !!
Of course it would have been nice if he just got well and all of this would be behind you. But really, when are things ever just easy, you know ??

The other stuff, well, "I" would want to know. At this point, with all the medical care and vet visits, why not test for other stuff, if nothing else, you can rule it out and stop worrying about it while you continue to treat his URI.

Just because he isn't 100 % yet doesn't mean he has some terrible disease. Since he is going back to the Vet, you could ask them to take the samples for the tests. Less stress on Yafe to keep being manhandled for meds, test, and whatnot.

I really wish you all best of luck with the little Dude. Him and you all deserve a break !!

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Originally Posted by zina10

...The other stuff, well, "I" would want to know. At this point, with all the medical care and vet visits, why not test for other stuff,
if nothing else, you can rule it out and stop worrying about it while you continue to treat his URI....

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That's what I was thinking too...let the vet test for Nido, while you're there...and yes, a "break" for you & Yafe is long over-due. :please:

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Originally Posted by zina10

Well, you know that URI can take time. I've heard of snakes being on meds for a couple of month before they completely got rid of it. So not all hope is lost by a long shot !!
Of course it would have been nice if he just got well and all of this would be behind you. But really, when are things ever just easy, you know ??

The other stuff, well, "I" would want to know. At this point, with all the medical care and vet visits, why not test for other stuff, if nothing else, you can rule it out and stop worrying about it while you continue to treat his URI.

Just because he isn't 100 % yet doesn't mean he has some terrible disease. Since he is going back to the Vet, you could ask them to take the samples for the tests. Less stress on Yafe to keep being manhandled for meds, test, and whatnot.

I really wish you all best of luck with the little Dude. Him and you all deserve a break !!

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Originally Posted by Bogertophis

That's what I was thinking too...let the vet test for Nido, while you're there...and yes, a "break" for you & Yafe is long over-due. :please:

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We will know more by Wednesday for sure.

Additionally, if Yafe is not 100%, I will test for everything. I want to know exactly what is going on, what we are dealing with, and what the prognosis really is.

I am not giving up on Yafe yet, believe me.

I sent the breeder another email to update him. I asked what he would do.

I'll update.

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Originally Posted by dakski

I sent the breeder another email to update him. I asked what he would do.

I'll update.

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Good call...:gj:

Did you ask if they have ever come across the Nido Virus in their collection, or if their animals are tested for it ? I know some breeders just test their breeding animals, just to be safe.

Even if they do test, or claim to have never had it in their collection, at this point I would just add this test to the checkup. If he is no better by Wednesday and you take him in anyways, might as well get it all done.

Looking forward to hear what the breeder (and the partner in Germany) has to say about it all, incl. Yafe not improving just yet..

I still hold out hope he will just get better by Wednesday. How has he been looking today ?

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Originally Posted by zina10

Did you ask if they have ever come across the Nido Virus in their collection, or if their animals are tested for it ? I know some breeders just test their breeding animals, just to be safe.

Even if they do test, or claim to have never had it in their collection, at this point I would just add this test to the checkup. If he is no better by Wednesday and you take him in anyways, might as well get it all done.

Looking forward to hear what the breeder (and the partner in Germany) has to say about it all, incl. Yafe not improving just yet..

I still hold out hope he will just get better by Wednesday. How has he been looking today ?

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I didn't mention Nido specifically to him. I do plan to mention to the vet Wednesday and test for it, and whatever else we can test for to rule out more serious things, including things that are more serious, but treatable. I am not just thinking worst case scenario.

I took Yafe out for about 2 minutes tonight to check him out.

About the same as Thursday. Consistent popping, but again, very quiet. No tongue flicks, my biggest concern at the moment. Additionally, there was a drop of fluid, presumably mucus, on the side of his mouth/corner of his mouth, right behind his heat pits. I have two pictures below. One is the normal picture and the other the close up of the corner of the mouth. It's clear so it's hard to see.

The only good news was tonight his body seemed calm/normal and he was not over-gripping and spasming.

I will update if anything gets better or worse. Otherwise, I plan to update after the vet on Wednesday.

Thank you to all for your support. This has been, and continues to be, a very difficult experience for all involved, Yafe included. I really feel for the little guy. I will continue to do all I can for him and all the vets can for him.

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Maybe that clear drop is leftover from him taking a drink of water? (don't assume the worst)

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Originally Posted by Bogertophis

Maybe that clear drop is leftover from him taking a drink of water? (don't assume the worst)

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Unfortunately, he bumped into my finger, and it was gooey, not runny like water. Not an expert, but it didn't seem like water to me. Also, his head had been vertical against the corner of the tank for about ten minutes before I took him out. Water probably would have run down his chin by then.

Not trying to burst your bubble, but it is what it is. :(

Oh, OK then...you had a lot more clues than you let on. Too bad...

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Originally Posted by Bogertophis

Oh, OK then...you had a lot more clues than you let on. Too bad...

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Yeah. This really sucks. Believe me, I am not looking for negatives. However, there clearly are quite a few at this point. I also am not in a position where I can let my guard down. I not only have Yafe's well being to worry about and have to be due diligent there, but I have other animals, reptile and mammal, that live here as well. I can't afford not be careful and cautious.

Hi Guys!

Thanks everyone for all the love and support. It's so hard to see this little animal cont. to be sick. Poor guy. I don't know WHAT he has or how bad, but there's something wrong with him for sure. I hope it's just a really stinky URI that needs some more or stronger meds. The last time we had been out at the vet, she had suggested doing a little feed for him. I'm not sure if she meant injection or like a little syringe... but maybe she can do that for him if she feels it's clinically appropriate.

:P Lots of love to all of you for keeping us grounded. xoxo

A positive update.

I spoke with Yafe's breeder tonight. It was a very positive experience and he set me at ease on a lot of issues that have been brought up here, as well as had some good ideas.

First, they run a pretty tight ship and they test for pretty much everything under the sun (including Nido - Zina10).

Secondly, he agreed that the RI should have been significantly better by now. He recommended asking the vet for a different antibiotic that a bordetella RI is sensitive too (which he offered to pay for). I have already emailed the vet and expect to pick up another antibiotic Monday afternoon. This saves the stress of transporting Yafe hours in the car, an exam, etc. I am very confident that we are dealing with an aggressive RI and not some crazy virus, etc.

It was a good communication and I feel that he has both Yafe's interests at heart and mine as well.

I'll keep everyone in the loop on what is prescribed and how it goes.

That's some great news , really glad he's up for getting yafe sorted and all better

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Originally Posted by richardhind1972

That's some great news , really glad he's up for getting yafe sorted and all better

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We are both up for doing what can be done.

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... The last time we had been out at the vet, she had suggested doing a little feed for him. I'm not sure if she meant injection or like a little syringe... but maybe she can do that for him if she feels it's clinically appropriate....

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I suspect she meant tube-feeding him so he has some energy to fight back with...it's something I have plenty of experience with & posted about extensively in another
thread here. It's truly helped many snakes I've crossed paths with over the years, & it's not that hard. The first time I ever tried it was only with a short paragraph of
instructions that the vet sent me home with. Keep in mind that the BEST place to do this is AT HOME...because once you tube-feed a snake, the liquid you just put in
comes out rather easily if you don't keep your snake calm & laying flat or with head slightly above his body. If you have the vet do this, I could pretty much guarantee
that he will have lost his lunch by the time you get him home...you don't want to do that.

Of course, if Yafe shows ANY signs of appetite you should first try offering him small prey that is easily digestible, like mouse fuzzies or rat pinks. But with the congestion
of an RI, he cannot smell his food very well, so a tube-feed might be the only way to get food into him. If you have reptile vitamins you can easily add them to the
"snake shake", or whatever else your vet suggests. Just remember that a snake's immune system needs food to function just as ours does: when we're in the hospital
& too sick to eat, do you really think we'd recover or get our appetite back without the energy received via an I.V.? Nope...so while we cannot do I.V.'s on snakes, a
little* tube-feeding (*always a smaller amount than what a normal meal would be) can really help get your snake well. Maybe it's time to learn?

I saw my reptile vet this afternoon and picked up a nebulizer, baytril and sterile water for the nebulizer, and metacam.


I was able to go in the middle of the day and it was less than 2 hours each way, and the car was a stable 78F - much to my chagrin, so I took Yafe.


He was in his hide today with his head down and seemed better. When we get to the vet, he was flicking his tongue. I couldn't believe it. The vet says sometimes it can take a few extra days for the last dose of antibiotics to kick in and for his immune system to fight back.


He was still popping, but barely, and infrequently.


She prescribed the metacam to calm down the irritated respiratory system and prescribed a low dose.


She prescribed the baytril via nebulizer to kill any residual bacteria in his respiratory system, as she feels, at least now, he is doing well enough, that injections and/or oral medication is not necessarily the best route.

The vet felt the prognosis was good despite the bumpy road. She, overall, sees vast improvement and expects a full recovery.

He got his oral dose of Metacam today, which he did not like at all. It tastes like honey, not rodent (it’s actually flavored for rodents), and he was not pleased. However, he was very compliant and did well.

He also had his first nebulizer treatment of Baytril today as well.

I don’t know what to say. The past 10-14 days he was regressing. Today, he seems noticeably better, if not better than he’s been since I’ve had him. I don’t know what to think. I was almost in tears coming home from the vet I was so happy. It’s also been an incredible emotional roller coaster. My nervous system is at a loss.

Let’s keep hoping for the best and I’ll keep everyone in the loop.


One other thing. I bought Yafe from StarPythons. I will write a review when this ordeal is over. It appears the shipping delay caused this infection and over the past week, as things seemed to worsen, Philip, the owner of StarPythons, has been Johnny on the Spot! He’s been emailing regularly, sharing thoughts and ideas and encouragement, and offering to help in any way he can even before I asked. He’s been really great. Even going as far as listing what viruses they test for, what antibiotics he’s used in similar situations, and giving financial support as well and taking ownership of Yafe’s health, despite it likely having little to do with him.

As you can see from earlier posts, we did get off on the wrong foot. I was combative in the beginning and blamed him for Yafe’s RI. He responded accordingly. However, once cooler heads prevailed, it was evident we both wanted what was best for Yafe.

I have kept in touch with him through this entire process and with things looking up and his dedication and attention over the past week, I wanted to make sure I was not painting him or StarPythons in a bad light. I don’t think that is fair at this point.

Again, very optimistic about Yafe’s future now and I’ll continue to update.

Here's hoping you & Yafe are nearing the END of this ordeal!

Don't you just love it when the symptoms that you panicked over all but disappear when you get to the doctor's office? (happens with people too, lol)

So glad he is better and the Vet is happy with his progress !!

What a big relief :)

Remember, stress is poison to the immune system. Not just for reptiles, but also for humans. You need to take care of yourself, too !!!! You have a beautiful fiance that needs you, and all your furry and scaly animals.

So do not forget to look after yourselves, too. Both You and Katie.

Have a nice sit down and relax. No matter what may or may not happen, there will always be ups and downs, but for now, focus on all the positive :) Yafe on the upswing and a beautiful little Boa on the way. And your soulmate on this journey right next to you. Life is good :)

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Originally Posted by zina10

So glad he is better and the Vet is happy with his progress !!

What a big relief :)

Remember, stress is poison to the immune system. Not just for reptiles, but also for humans. You need to take care of yourself, too !!!! You have a beautiful fiance that needs you, and all your furry and scaly animals.

So do not forget to look after yourselves, too. Both You and Katie.

Have a nice sit down and relax. No matter what may or may not happen, there will always be ups and downs, but for now, focus on all the positive :) Yafe on the upswing and a beautiful little Boa on the way. And your soulmate on this journey right next to you. Life is good :)

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Awwwww! Thank you so much Zina10!

So well said!

I need to get up early for a special delivery. I am headed to bed momentarily. It's been a long day, long weekend, and long week ahead.

Thank you again for the kind words.

Yafe got his third nebulizer treatment of Baytril today.

When he finished, he seemed fine, but was wheezing a little. He hasn't wheezed in probably ten days or more. What was interesting was that he did not seem uncomfortable. He was acting normal otherwise and flicking his tongue, etc. Tonight, he's had his head up against the corner of the tank, elevated about 10 inches.

I have a theory. In addition to the Baytril, it is mixed with sterile water (1ml/5ml Baytril/Sterile water) in the nebulizer. In addition to a 20-30 minute treatment of Baytril, he's also breathing in 100% humidity air. It almost sounded to me, and judging by his lack of discomfort at the time, that things were really starting to break up. I am hopeful that a) the high humidity is doing him some good (I am keeping the tank 55-65% or so as well) and helping clean out the gunk, and b) this will help and means the Baytril is penetrating. 18 more days of nebulizer, so I am hoping I am correct and on to something and this is a good sign. However, if it's not, there is still plenty of time for him to improve.

Yafe with his head up against the tank corner. He bent his neck a little before I took the picture. I am hoping that's a good sign too.

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Dave, I agree with you. A while back someone asked if a snake with an RI should have higher humidity or lower, & my thought was "lower" but a few others
chimed in & said "higher". :confusd: Yes, you want the "gunk" to break up, but I live where it's humid and it's NOTICEABLY harder to breathe when the humidity is
100% for anyone or any thing* with issues; *in this case, my elderly dog gets out of breath when going for a walk, which doesn't happen with lower humidity.

So I think what you're seeing is "normal" under the circumstances, and by now this probably does feel "normal" to him too...let's hope you don't have to re-name
him "Wheezie" and that someday soon he finds out what normal really is. :snake:

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Dave, I agree with you. A while back someone asked if a snake with an RI should have higher humidity or lower, & my thought was "lower" but a few others
chimed in & said "higher". :confusd: Yes, you want the "gunk" to break up, but I live where it's humid and it's NOTICEABLY harder to breathe when the humidity is
100% for anyone or any thing* with issues; *in this case, my elderly dog gets out of breath when going for a walk, which doesn't happen with lower humidity.

So I think what you're seeing is "normal" under the circumstances, and by now this probably does feel "normal" to him too...let's hope you don't have to re-name
him "Wheezie" and that someday soon he finds out what normal really is. :snake:

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Thank you, Bogertophis, for the quick, thorough, and reassuring, response.

Fingers still crossed for Yafe! :gj:

I started Yafe’s nebulizer treatments with Baytril on Monday. Monday, I tried covering up his tank and using that, but it didn’t fog up as much as I would have liked. So Tuesday, I turned a new/clean Home Depot orange bucket into a nebulizer chamber. It works great. I put the nebulizer nozzle in and suction cupped (the vet gave me a plastic suction cup nozzle holder) it to the side of the bucket. I use the lid on top, but it’s not air tight as the nebulizer tube has to get in. However, it’s pretty tight and keeps 99% of the mist in. Yafe, every time, has climbed up on the nozzle holder and wrapped around it during his treatment. No big deal. He’s still breathing in the medicine and the humid air.

I posted yesterday that he wheezed and popped after his treatment and I was hopeful that was because the gunk/mucus was breaking up and the Baytril was able to penetrate. Today, he sounded much better than he has in a while. A few pops still, but barely audible, and we are on day 4 of 21 of treatment. After the treatment, similar to yesterday, some wheezes, and quite a bit of popping, but he seems less bothered by that than he has in the past.

I am in no way selling the farm here. I've seen him get better and then regress, and I have yet to see him 100%. However, I am much more optimistic now and wanted to share that.

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Good idea on the bucket! :gj:

Today Yafe was still popping and it was not noticeably better than yesterday. However, he seems like he is feeling more comfortable. I don't have any crazy evidence to support this, but it's more of a gut feeling. When I take him out for the nebulizer treatment, he is active but calm, and making more deliberate and gentle movements. In the past, when moving, he often seemed uncomfortable and would make quicker and more dramatic movements. He would also hold me/my arm/hand really tight from time to time. Now he seems to hold me much more relaxed, more like what I am used to from my other snakes, all constrictors.

After nebulizer treatment, there was one slight wheeze, and a lot of popping, but even that seemed better today. Maybe there is less gunk to break up now?

Either way, treatment 5 of 21, so not jumping to any conclusions and still concerned. However, I am latching onto any glimmer of hope at this point. I am trying to stay optimistic.

C'mon Yafe! Shake it off bro! Let's get to 100 Champ!

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C'mon Yafe! Shake it off bro! Let's get to 100 Champ!

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Thanks Brother!

Yafe has a lot of people pulling for him. In the meantime, Katie and I are doing everything we can for him.

I continue to be CAUTIOUSLY OPTIMISTIC.

Until that popping is gone for a while, I see regular tongue flicks, and he eats, I am not going to relax.

That reminds me. I forgot to mention the tongue flicking. He really isn't flicking his tongue much, if at all, in his tank, and when I take him out. After the nebulizer treatment, the tongue seems to be going fairly normally. Not sure what all that means either.

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Originally Posted by dakski

...After the nebulizer treatment, the tongue seems to be going fairly normally. Not sure what all that means either.

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I think that means the nebulizer treatment is helping- it's breaking up the sticky gunk so he can flick his tongue again. It's a concern that the issue keeps coming
back though...but I guess it just takes time. Or maybe retraining? This is how it's done, Yafe: :snake::snake::snake:

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I think that means the nebulizer treatment is helping- it's breaking up the sticky gunk so he can flick his tongue again. It's a concern that the issue keeps coming
back though...but I guess it just takes time. Or maybe retraining? This is how it's done, Yafe: :snake::snake::snake:

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Lol. Yeah. Well have 5 other serpents who can teach Yafe how to snake again! Who do you think is best suited for the job?

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Lol. Yeah. Well have 5 other serpents who can teach Yafe how to snake again! Who do you think is best suited for the job?

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I'll leave that up to you, you're the snarent (& a mighty fine one at that!).

Yafe got his 6th nebulizer/Baytril treatment today.

When I took him out for the treatment, he was barely sticking his tongue out frequently. Just the two tips were visible, not even the main shaft of the tongue. However, that's a good sign as far as I am concerned.

After the treatment, happy tongue, as before.

Again, it's only treatment 6 of 21 and he seems to be improving, even it is in little ways, and a little at a time. I am becoming more optimistic.

Thats good then, fingers crossed it’s working properly Dave


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Yafe is having his 8th nebulizer/Baytril treatment as I write this.

So, far, I am noticing, small, but noticeable, improvement with him, especially over the past 2-3 days.

First, his breathing is better. No more wheezing, even after treatment. He is still popping, virtually every time he breaths, however, you need to hold his head to your ear to hear it. 4 days ago it was audible just holding him.

Secondly, he is beginning to flick his tongue. Before treatment, starting 2 days ago, he sticks just the fork part of his tongue out, not the whole tongue, however, that's a big improvement. After nebulizer treatment, he usually happily sticks the whole thing out.

I finished the anti-inflammatory yesterday. I don't think Yafe will miss it. He hated it. Tastes like honey, not mouse. Not his favorite.

I am not sure how normal his progression is. It's a 21 day treatment, so as of last treatment, he was only 1/3 of the way through. I am optimistic, but emailed the vet to get her thoughts at this point.

I should add that he’s much calmer and gentle when I take him out for his treatments now. He does not appear to be very uncomfortable and is acting more like a normal snake.

Good to read Dakski!! :gj::gj::gj:
Keep us posted.

WOW! Very excited! Big improvement even from yesterday to today. Today, Yafe was sticking his tongue out at least 80%, and it was a happy tongue, BEFORE nebulizer treatment! WOW! HUGE IMPROVEMENT!

He is still popping when breathing, but again, very quietly. This is treatment 9 of 21 and I am getting more optimistic by the day.


Video link of Yafe before Nebulizer Treatment today with a happy tongue: https://streamable.com/yyq6a


Happy Tongue!

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That's a good sign for sure! I hope someday, many years from now after he has lived a long & great life, you'll look back on all his struggles here & know it was
all worth it.

Nice to hear! Keep the good news coming!

Yafe is getting his nebulizer treatment now. I believe it's his 11th (his last treatment is the 26th of this month - 21 in total).

The past two days, there have been no tongue flicks, and he's still popping. It feels like he's regressed slightly. I feel slightly discouraged, but also know this can normal.

I am not going to make any judgements, or worry, until after the last treatment. I would like to see him doing much better, but I can only do so much and wishing doesn't help.

He does seem better in his movements and interactions. He's calm and composed when I take him out for treatments and holds on confidently, but not overly tight or with quick tight grips like he did when he was struggling to breathe.

I'll keep everyone updated.

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The past two days, there have been no tongue flicks, and he's still popping. It feels like he's regressed slightly. I feel slightly discouraged, but also know this can normal.

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Could just be a bad day for him. Best wishes and please do keep the updates coming.

How has he been doing these past couple of days? Hopefully better!

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How has he been doing these past couple of days? Hopefully better!

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I wish. Not so much.

He's back to wheezing, not just popping.

I am continuing treatment as planned, but I am getting really down.

I called the vet and have an appointment for the 27th, the day after his last nebulizer treatment.

I'll keep everyone up to date.

Zina10, thank you so much for asking.

That's ashame Dave,was really hoping for a better update, fingers crossed for you mate

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I wish. Not so much.

He's back to wheezing, not just popping.

I am continuing treatment as planned, but I am getting really down.

I called the vet and have an appointment for the 27th, the day after his last nebulizer treatment.

I'll keep everyone up to date..

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Oh no...after all this? :( So sorry...

I feel for you both, man. Definitely not an easy thing to deal with. Best wishes


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I wish. Not so much.

He's back to wheezing, not just popping.

I am continuing treatment as planned, but I am getting really down.

I called the vet and have an appointment for the 27th, the day after his last nebulizer treatment.

I'll keep everyone up to date.

Zina10, thank you so much for asking.

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Aw man, bummer !!

Honestly, Dave. If you take him to the Vet again, why not run that test. It only takes a minute to swab and at least you can rule things out. It seems odd that Yafe is not responding to treatment when his URI wasn't even that advanced to begin with.

Perhaps its just me, but I would like to rule out some issues that tend to cause sickness that doesn't respond to treatment.

That said, I still hope he will finally just turn the corner for you. This has been so stressful on you all, incl. Yafe. You are in my thoughts..


edited to add: Perhaps another culture as well ? Just to see if any of the bacteria (and which) has been eradicated (or not). And what else may be brewing. Might as well, if you do end up taking him...