First ball python!!

Local one of a kind pet store.......... "Sign"

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Originally Posted by gameonpython

Thanks again:)


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I don't think you understand that JWKempo is being sarcastic. Does anyone live near Alberta? They need to find this girl and take her snake from her before it dies. Snakes ABSOLUTELY need heat lamps. The air temperature on the hot side needs to be 88ish, and the air temp on the cold side needs to be above 75. The heat pad is not going to provide enough heat, especially since it's covered by substrate and a hide. If you can't provide your snake with the proper conditions, someone in this thread will be calling some form of Canadian authorities to have you fined for animal abuse. Those fines will be even more than a thermostat, IR temperature reader, and heat lamp combined.

Your snake will die if it isn't warm enough. He won't eat, and he'll starve himself to death. He seems like he's happy now, but the temps in your tank are not suitable for him to be living in. This is causing great stress to your snake that will unfortunately lead to his slow and painful death. I'm not exaggerating by any means.

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Originally Posted by gameonpython

Maybe for you it will cost 35$, for me it's about 55$. I don't feel any of you are helping.

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Do you happen to have any emergency fund with which you can properly fix your Marshall's environment? Also, money doesn't work like that. The reason it seems to cost "more" in canada is because the value of money is lowered, so it should take 2 days of some sort of work to get $55 canadian dollars. Simple enough? I suggest also setting apart $300 canadian dollars for your snakes burn. You keep tripping over your own words. If you're trolling go ahead and come through please. This isn't a funny joke. I have given real consent over a joke.

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Originally Posted by Reed12321

I don't think you understand that JWKempo is being sarcastic. Does anyone live near Alberta? They need to find this girl and take her snake from her before it dies. Snakes ABSOLUTELY need heat lamps. The air temperature on the hot side needs to be 88ish, and the air temp on the cold side needs to be above 75. The heat pad is not going to provide enough heat, especially since it's covered by substrate and a hide. If you can't provide your snake with the proper conditions, someone in this thread will be calling some form of Canadian authorities to have you fined for animal abuse. Those fines will be even more than a thermostat, IR temperature reader, and heat lamp combined.

Your snake will die if it isn't warm enough. He won't eat, and he'll starve himself to death. He seems like he's happy now, but the temps in your tank are not suitable for him to be living in. This is causing great stress to your snake that will unfortunately lead to his slow and painful death. I'm not exaggerating by any means.

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I don think Jwkempo is not being sarcastic. I am not abusing Marshall. Abuse would be purposely harming him. Look at this picture. Does he look like he's being hurt in any way?
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Not having a thermostat is not abuse. That is ridiculous that you would even try to accuse me of abusing Marshall.


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Do you happen to have any emergency fund with which you can properly fix your Marshall's environment? Also, money doesn't work like that. The reason it seems to cost "more" in canada is because the value of money is lowered, so it should take 2 days of some sort of work to get $55 canadian dollars. Simple enough? I suggest also setting apart $300 canadian dollars for your snakes burn. You keep tripping over your own words. If you're trolling go ahead and come through please. This isn't a funny joke. I have given real consent over a joke.

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I am not joking! You guys do realize that you are getting THIS upset over me not having a thermostat?! Seriously?!


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Originally Posted by Jwkempo

The kids gonna take care of her snake the way he/she thinks is best. Either her methods will prove out...or not. On a side note what concerns me more than a pad going into thermo meltdown is the huge variation in temps you get within the pads themselves. I've seen as much as a 10-20 degree variation from one part of the pad compared to another part. Especially when covered with substrate.

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Exactly! Interesting observation on heat pads.


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Originally Posted by PitOnTheProwl

Local one of a kind pet store.......... "Sign"

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Oh you don't believe me?


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I've decided to leave the forum. This is just absolutely ridiculous. Way too much drama. I will not be posting anymore and I won't share any info about Marshall other than he's still doing great. I hope you guys have a good time with your arguments and I wish all of you the best with your snakes.


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Reed?...sarcastic? The hell you say! Licking snakes to check their ambient surface temperature is a little known secret I learned from Bob Clark when we was wrangling snakes together in the Amazon. Most amazing thing watching ole Bob lickin a giant retic from snout to tail...

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I've decided to leave the forum. This is just absolutely ridiculous. Way too much drama. I will not be posting anymore and I won't share any info about Marshall other than he's still doing great. I hope you guys have a good time with your arguments and I wish all of you the best with your snakes.


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You'll be back to tell us all we are correct and that you need lamps, thermostats, and soon you may need humidifiers, space heaters, or even more! Have fun with you snake when he decides to stop eating. You'll post and say, "OMG MY SNAKE HASN'T EATEN! WHAT DO I DO!?" and the first question people will ask is, "What's your husbandry like?" and as soon as you say you're only using a UTH without a thermostat and that you have your humidity unregulated, they'll tell you to get your tank conditions up to par and then he might eat.

If you refuse to purchase a thermostat because you cannot afford $50, please at least go to your local hardware store and buy a dimmer. It will cost you $10 and it will at least limit the electricity that can make it to the heat pad and will prevent it from getting too hot. All you do is plug it into the wall, plug the pad into it, and set it according to the temp you read with your temp gun (which you DESPERATELY NEED when you own reptiles!).

I speak from experience on this. Zoomed isn't trustworthy as far as spikes go. When I first switched to heat pads, the person who told me to do so neglected to mention the importance of a thermostat or other type of regulation and I learned the hard way which is NOT A GOOD TIME. I could have lost that animal, but I was incredibly lucky and she pulled through just fine after a long period of TLC. I could always post some horrific photos of her sloughing belly if you want me to, if that will help drive the point home.

I didn't read this entire thread because holy 16 pages, but I needed to make a comment about the "it never gets hot enough here for the snake to get burned on a heat pad" remark you were making before. If your ambient room temp is 85F your snake is probably not going to burn itself on a heat pad because it won't need the heat pad to regulate to a comfortable temp. If your ambient room temperature is COLD (like in your basement in the great white north) your snake is going to cling to the heatpad and remain sitting on it until its belly is burned off.
If you don't want to buy a light, get a space heater to keep the room at 80F. REGULATE THE HEAT PAD SOMEHOW. Seriously, again, even buy a dimmer, because you always think "this would never happen to me! my snake will never get burned!" until it's too late and you find a cooked animal one day.

Please learn from other people's mistakes and take the advice that those of us with actual experience are giving you. We aren't throwing advice at you to make you feel bad or because we think it's a fun time to give people bad advice, it's because we know what that animal needs and we care enough to try and ensure that it gets exactly that.
Otherwise, why post on a forum full of educated, informed, and experience keepers that didn't get their first ball python a week ago?

Lost cause.
I am sorry for Marshall.
I am going to use what little self control I have on this subject to just let this post die.
Belly burns and the smell of cooked snakes suck.
Peace out........

As I said before you can lead the horse to the water....

And since Elvis has left the building

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I've decided to leave the forum.

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, and we are not accomplishing anything here anymore time to put this one to rest.