Cobra

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Originally Posted by wilomn

Ach Michael, that wasn't really necessary now, was it?

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You only didn't think it was funny because you had to google who paul blart was. :p

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Originally Posted by Mephibosheth1

I have a question in with the higher-ups on specific ways we can try and improve in this regard....I do see that there wouldn't be much our group could actually do, but still think our goal can be accomplished

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It pains me to hear about truly needful questions falling through the cracks. It happens, though. We do our best, as a whole, to catch them all, but we're not a flawless community, and with the size and speed at which things move around here, it is sure to happen more than just once.

What can you (the universal "you") do to help prevent that? WATCH the new threads on a regular basis. Look for threads with zero replies or maybe only one or two replies and then see what you can do to step in and give them the attention they deserve. That's all any of us can do. I say this especially to those that seem to take it personally when a question is not given the attention it deserves...what are YOU doing to step in and make that situation better? Sometimes, even if you don't know the answer to the question, a simple friendly "bump" will bring it back to the top of the active list so that the person who might know the answer has a better chance of seeing it.

As for the practice of "necromancing" old threads...I really don't have a problem with it, and I do get annoyed with the members that seem to make it a habit to mock anyone who dares to bump up an old thread. That being said, I DO see the problem with old threads getting bumped, because people start replying to the original post of the thread without realizing it's a few years old and then feel a bit foolish and like they've wasted their time when they realize their reply is no longer relevant. BUT...when people find and respond to those old threads, it means they ARE using the vaunted SEARCH FUNCTION which so many get told they should use. I don't think there is anything wrong with making a note that an old thread has been bumped because maybe it'll save someone a bit of time replying to a thread they don't need to reply to. BUT, I think it is wrong to ridicule those who do so because more often than not, it's a new person that we WANT to feel welcomed here.

All in all, I think we should all be a bit more tolerant of each other AND learn not to take things so personally.

I don't think we need a special, named "club" to accomplish any of this, but if a group of our members want to get together and make an organized, collective effort to catch those lost questions and make members feel welcomed, then more power to them. Whatever works to make our site better.

I'm just gonna throw this in here...

Why is there such a problem with a group of guys wanting to start a helpful club? If it isn't against the rules, and they aren't doing anything wrong, then why does everyone have their panties in a bunch about it?

If this site "already does that"(help people out) then why is there an issue with people starting a club with a name, to more formally do that? If you don't wanna be a part of the club, then just don't ask to join, very simple. Let us form a club and continue to do just that.

I just fail to see a problem with a few members trying to "do more." It's met with, "if you want to do more just get out there and post instead of forming a club."

If you want us as a community to do more, then stop wasting your time on this thread, telling everyone how pointless it is, and go help a new member, instead of absolutely pointlessly sharing your opinion about a club that is not doing anything wrong, trying to be even more helpful, and you want no part of.

If you don't like it, just don't join. Super simple stuff people. No need to rustle your jimmies over something with good intentions.

Jeez


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Originally Posted by Expensive hobby

I'm just gonna throw this in here...

Why is there such a problem with a group of guys wanting to start a helpful club? If it isn't against the rules, and they aren't doing anything wrong, then why does everyone have their panties in a bunch about it?

If this site "already does that"(help people out) then why is there an issue with people starting a club with a name, to more formally do that? If you don't wanna be a part of the club, then just don't ask to join, very simple. Let us form a club and continue to do just that.

I just fail to see a problem with a few members trying to "do more." It's met with, "if you want to do more just get out there and post instead of forming a club."

If you want us as a community to do more, then stop wasting your time on this thread, telling everyone how pointless it is, and go help a new member, instead of absolutely pointlessly sharing your opinion about a club that is not doing anything wrong, trying to be even more helpful, and you want no part of.

If you don't like it, just don't join. Super simple stuff people. No need to rustle your jimmies over something with good intentions.

Jeez

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Originally Posted by Expensive hobby

I'm just gonna throw this in here...

Why is there such a problem with a group of guys wanting to start a helpful club? If it isn't against the rules, and they aren't doing anything wrong, then why does everyone have their panties in a bunch about it?

If this site "already does that"(help people out) then why is there an issue with people starting a club with a name, to more formally do that? If you don't wanna be a part of the club, then just don't ask to join, very simple. Let us form a club and continue to do just that.

I just fail to see a problem with a few members trying to "do more." It's met with, "if you want to do more just get out there and post instead of forming a club."

If you want us as a community to do more, then stop wasting your time on this thread, telling everyone how pointless it is, and go help a new member, instead of absolutely pointlessly sharing your opinion about a club that is not doing anything wrong, trying to be even more helpful, and you want no part of.

If you don't like it, just don't join. Super simple stuff people. No need to rustle your jimmies over something with good intentions.

Jeez

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So if I understand it right YOU can share YOUR opinion about an idea but anyone that does not see the point of such idea (no one said they opposed it) can't?

Sounds like great mentality already (question nothing and don't disagree)

Now who is getting his panties in a bunch? ;)

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Originally Posted by Deborah

So if I understand it right YOU can share YOUR opinion about an idea but anyone that does not see the point of such idea (no one said they opposed it) can't?

Sounds like great mentality already (question nothing and don't disagree)

Now who is getting his panties in a bunch? ;)

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Look at the number of rustled jimmies in this thread and look how many times I've posted about it. I rest my case.

My point, there is no point in opposing something if there are no real issues(site rules, morality, ethics) and defending an idea that is being questioned like it committed a crime, is not getting your panties in a bunch.

Can somebody answer me this? What real ground does anyone have to oppose this group if it isn't doing anything wrong?

Sure you are entitled to an opinion, but why is it necessary to oppose something started with such good intentions?

Next on the agenda, lets go harass all those lousy charities! Bunch of no good "cool kids" clubs just trying to exclude people because they got rejected from another club!


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Originally Posted by Expensive hobby

I'm just gonna throw this in here...

Why is there such a problem with a group of guys wanting to start a helpful club? If it isn't against the rules, and they aren't doing anything wrong, then why does everyone have their panties in a bunch about it?

If this site "already does that"(help people out) then why is there an issue with people starting a club with a name, to more formally do that? If you don't wanna be a part of the club, then just don't ask to join, very simple. Let us form a club and continue to do just that.

I just fail to see a problem with a few members trying to "do more." It's met with, "if you want to do more just get out there and post instead of forming a club."

If you want us as a community to do more, then stop wasting your time on this thread, telling everyone how pointless it is, and go help a new member, instead of absolutely pointlessly sharing your opinion about a club that is not doing anything wrong, trying to be even more helpful, and you want no part of.

If you don't like it, just don't join. Super simple stuff people. No need to rustle your jimmies over something with good intentions.

Jeez


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Remember a little bit ago when I said "Doomed?"

Add an irredeemably to the front of that, wouldja?

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Originally Posted by Deborah

So if I understand it right YOU can share YOUR opinion about an idea but anyone that does not see the point of such idea (no one said they opposed it) can't?

Sounds like great mentality already (question nothing and don't disagree)

Now who is getting his panties in a bunch? ;)

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I've already gone over this with Neal and tried to explain to him i was just as entitled to give my opinion As he was to give his.. He then proceeded to call me childish and leave me negative feedback just for giving my opinion. What a great representative he is for the breakfast club :/ lol

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Originally Posted by wilomn

Remember a little bit ago when I said "Doomed?"

Add an irredeemably to the front of that, wouldja?

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I'm not quite catching what you're throwing. Are you saying that the idea is doomed because of people's inability to accept something that has literally nothing wrong with it?


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Originally Posted by Expensive hobby

I'm not quite catching what you're throwing. Are you saying that the idea is doomed because of people's inability to accept something that has literally nothing wrong with it?


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Is that what you think I'm saying?

There are a few sayings i wish to apply here...

1) if it ain't broke don't fix it (the forum is full of nice helpful people who help out whenever they can)
2) You can't fix stupid (these people are so high on their own ideas they don't want to hear what the general public has to say about it and could care less even though they are proceeding to make themselves look like idiots)

The previous 15 pages had gone by with very little incident.

Now this last page really shows me my idea WAS doomed from the start.

@JLC and the rest of the team: I wasn't trying to start some kind of war/arguement....I think I can see why something like this ha never been done before.

I'm going to go crawl off to bed and lament the death of this idea...perhaps it shall see fruition eventually.

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Originally Posted by wilomn

Is that what you think I'm saying?

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Yes he thinks that's what your saying. We sane people realize that's not what your saying. See my reply above.

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Originally Posted by wilomn

Is that what you think I'm saying?

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Well that's why I asked, because I wasn't sure. Is that what you meant? Or we're you in opposition to the idea of the club?


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Originally Posted by Expensive hobby

Well that's why I asked, because I wasn't sure. Is that what you meant? Or we're you in opposition to the idea of the club?


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Really you have to ask?

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Originally Posted by zach_24_90

Yes he thinks that's what your saying. We sane people realize that's not what your saying. See my reply above.

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Thanks for being immature. Not because we have differing opinions on the concept, but because you implied my lack of sanity with your last post. I guess you must be one of the less helpful members here on this forum based on that type of post.

I guess if someone doesn't agree with you, they must be insane. Awesome attitude man. Really positive stuff.

See guys, there is no need for a club with a lack of this type of mentality on this board.

DOWN WITH COBRA!


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"My God Bones, what have I done??"

–James Tiberius Kirk

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Originally Posted by Expensive hobby

Thanks for being immature. Not because we have differing opinions on the concept, but because you implied my lack of sanity with your last post. I guess you must be one of the less helpful members here on this forum based on that type of post.

I guess if someone doesn't agree with you, they must be insane. Awesome attitude man. Really positive stuff.

See guys, there is no need for a club with a lack of this type of mentality on this board.

DOWN WITH COBRA!


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Actually not true at all I help at every opportunity I see . I'm the guy surfing the threads that have little to no replies to see if I can give some advice. I'm The guy pm'ing people to see if they need any help and constantly giving out my phone number and saying call or txt me whenever you need to ask some questions. But do I still think this idea is pointless? You bet!!! So nice try. But you got it wrong this time.

Yayy star trek quotes! BEST POST YET! Hahah

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Originally Posted by zach_24_90

Actually not true at all I help at every opportunity I see . I'm the guy surfing the threads that have little to no replies to see if I can give some advice. I'm The guy pm'ing people to see if they need any help and constantly giving out my phone number and saying call or txt me whenever you need to ask some questions. But do I still think this idea is pointless? You bet!!!

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My point was your level of immaturity shown in your post being unhelpful and counterproductive to the ideals of this community.

If the idea of COBRA is pointless, then your post in question was GALAXIES in the wrong direction.

Maybe don't insult people's intelligence because they have differing ideas than you. It will make you seem more credible when you say something.


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Oh come on now your really going to take it that personally? Get over yourself man it was a joke. :colbert::gj::rolleye2:

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Originally Posted by zach_24_90

Oh come on now your really going to take it that personally? Get over yourself man it was a joke. :colbert::gj::rolleye2:

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Ya now you are back-pedaling. When you say:

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Originally Posted by zach_24_90

Yes he thinks that's what your saying. We sane people realize that's not what your saying. See my reply above.

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That seems pretty insulting, and I didn't see a "lol" or "j/k" or anything that would indicate a "joke" as you say.

And I don't think I need to "get over myself." Generally you would say that to someone that is coming off cocky, or self righteous, not someone that is "taking it personally."

C'mon, just man up and take responsibility for saying something rude and counterproductive for your cause, my cause, and the general idea of the forum.


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I'm not back pedaling? I can honestly say I could care less what happens with this.. Do I think it's stupid? Oh yeah. But is it really going to change how I act in the forums? No. Lol either way I'm still going to be giving advice every day. This is just a little late night fun because this thread is obviously dead at this point

Club COBRA if you guys want to make a club just go for it. Admins already told you that you are not breaking any rules. People are always going to have a different opinion about everything. If a club makes you guys happy and more helpful to the forums then just go on with the club. No need for others approval

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Originally Posted by exoticballs

Club COBRA if you guys want to make a club just go for it. Admins already told you that you are not breaking any rules. People are always going to have a different opinion about everything. If a club makes you guys happy and more helpful to the forums then just go on with the club. No need for others approval

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I'm not even the founder/inventor/etc, and it seems I am defending it more than anyone at this point.

I know it's not breaking rule, and I don't need anyone's approval to want to belong to a group.

Thank you for pointing that out to others that seem to feel the need to bash others ideas.


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@Mephi-

:petting: :hug:

Sorry, buddy. I go to bed, then work, and then this happens...

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Originally Posted by Expensive hobby

I'm not even the founder/inventor/etc, and it seems I am defending it more than anyone at this point.

I know it's not breaking rule, and I don't need anyone's approval to want to belong to a group.

Thank you for pointing that out to others that seem to feel the need to bash others ideas.

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You are running late to a game and missed the opening pitch.
This is an open community and there were questions that the community responded to.
So is it "bashing" if you ask a question and don't like the answer??

My question: What is a "group" going to change that you cant do now other than alienate certain member and possibly promote a "gang-up"?
Are the members going to meet in a single location(be it Skype or other video conference) so they can discuss how to respond to every post before they reply?


BTW, my undies are never in a bunch................Batman doesn't bunch ;)

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Originally Posted by PitOnTheProwl

You are running late to a game and missed the opening pitch.
This is an open community and there were questions that the community responded to.
So is it "bashing" if you ask a question and don't like the answer??

My question: What is a "group" going to change that you cant do now other than alienate certain member and possibly promote a "gang-up"?
Are the members going to meet in a single location(be it Skype or other video conference) so they can discuss how to respond to every post before they reply?


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Umm ya I was one of the first 5 posters in this thread, don't think I was "running late to the game and missed the opening pitch."

And this group was never intended as a "gang up" mentality group. It was meant to specifically try to "do more" than is already done on this forum.

People say this forum is already good. People also say "some fall through the cracks." So what wrong with trying to make this forum better? What's wrong with trying to fill those cracks?

I've never in my life seen so much opposition to something meant for good. It's kinda ridiculous if you ask me.


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Originally Posted by Expensive hobby

Umm ya I was one of the first 5 posters in this thread, don't think I was "running late to the game and missed the opening pitch."

And this group was never intended as a "gang up" mentality group. It was meant to specifically try to "do more" than is already done on this forum.

People say this forum is already good. People also say "some fall through the cracks." So what wrong with trying to make this forum better? What's wrong with trying to fill those cracks?

I've never in my life seen so much opposition to something meant for good. It's kinda ridiculous if you ask me.


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You have expressed your opinion. I have expressed mine. They are opposed. Do you wish to continue or can you be satisfied with having had your say, realizing that you will not be changing any minds, and simply doing what you say you will, you know, helping out, which this bickering is most assuredly not.

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Originally Posted by wilomn

You have expressed your opinion. I have expressed mine. They are opposed. Do you wish to continue or can you be satisfied with having had your say, realizing that you will not be changing any minds, and simply doing what you say you will, you know, helping out, which this bickering is most assuredly not.

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You are absolutely correct. This bickering is not helping anyone. Which is why I am done with this thread. On to other more productive things. I'm outty 5000.


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Geez, guys. :rolleyes: Enough is enough. I think this poor horse has been beaten into the ground well and good. Move on out now...nothing more to see here.