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Re: Dan Scolaro (DTS Herps)
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Originally Posted by Neal
JLC you may as well lock the thread, it's going nowhere fast and the points were proven who in Florida not to order from.
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Originally Posted by DTS HERPS
Neal: Before we close it, ...
Ohhh no. This one isn't going anywhere or closing. The longer he talks, the more people will see the truth of the matter. So long as things stay civil (and they have admirably well so far) admin will not be interfering except to make our own observations from time to time, if we choose to.
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Rabernet, so are you saying that you are so high on a pedestal that you do not at least have 100 dollars in your savings account to stand behind your conjecture? You stand to make 100 more if your conjecture is proven correct. Do not miss this opportunity as your friends are watching and they are eager to see you proven correct. And are you forgetting it is Sunday and you have the entire day to wash as few cars and make a 100 bucks and come back to stand behind your implications. Can you get a loan or is there a problem with credit?
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Re: Dan Scolaro (DTS Herps)
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Originally Posted by DTS HERPS
BH: If you believe he woke 4 years to complain for no reason, then that is your demise not mine so don't drag me into it. If the snake was ill, then he surely could of reported that when he got it and returned it for a full refund. If he did not, then he has zero basis to wake 4 years later and moan about it. How do you know the snake did not get sick under his care? You believe him? You believe he woke 4 years later and complained for no reason? Do you want to buy some swamp land? What else would you believe? If it got sick under my care, then he surely would of notified and shipped it back. How about someone buys a snake from you and goes on a forum and says he got it 4 years ago and it was sick. Are you going to ask them to prove it? So I asked and received zero proof and got the typical pile of crap friends of his jumping on my back so I pick at them until they hide their heads like an ostrich. So what. I did not say that all people that post against me are criminals? However its a crime or a shame that any moron can pick up a computer and knock someone without evidence, don't you agree. Or is that the way it should be - like north korea?
Neal has an infinite more amount of credibility than you do. So yes, I'm going to believe something he says (even if there isn't undeniable proof) over something you say. The BOI has ruined all your credibility so nothing you say can be taken seriously unless you show us unfalsifiable proof (which you have yet to do). Neal, however, is a loyal member of this forum and has personal relationships with several of us outside this forum. He doesn't scam people and has only good reviews about himself. His abundance of credibility completely outshines your lack of credibility.
As for the bolded part: You HAVE said that all the people have post against you on the BOI are criminals and extortionist because none of what they are saying is true. So yes, I still hold my previous statement.
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Judy, why would you consider to close this? Rabernet has reported to be washing cars to raise 100 bucks and I want him to bet and stand behind his conjecture. Lets see how many cars he gets done with by the end of the day. Anyone else want to loan him 100? Truth of what matter you say? What matter? Do you have a reasonable explanation as to why neal and treeboa woke 4 years later to moan about perfect snakes they reported as receiving and then demised them under their care and complained 4 years later?
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Neal has zero credit and he admits he has no proof. I have thousands of great feedback reports from thousands of legitimate buyers. If your friend is so loyal, then maybe you can explain what's loyal about waking 4 years later to moan about snakes he reported as receiving in good shape.
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BH: So you are saying that Neal's personal relationship friends attached to this forum are the same folks that are standing behind his 4 year wake up to knock a seller with no proof? Are you one of his personal friends? Then perhaps stand up for your friend and explain why he woke 4 years later to moan over a snake he reported otherwise in good shape?
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Originally Posted by wilomn
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Re: Dan Scolaro (DTS Herps)
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Originally Posted by DTS HERPS
Raven, why would you want something to hurt me? What negative BOI post? There's nothing negative there, just a few scammers that failed to extort. And I taught you a lesson here and you should be grateful.
All you have "taught" me is to never, under any circumstances steer anyone to your business. To actively steer them away from purchasing from you.
You claim extortion, well show us where treeboa, Neal tried to get anything "extra" out of you, to extort a single thing. You cannot because it is not happening. So, shut up about the non-existent "extortion" already and address the issues.
Even giving you credit for possibly having English as a second language, you have still failed to make a credible counter-claim to a single complaint.
Every seller will run into a shady buyer or two but, those same BOI's warn of who we should likely not trust when they complain just as much as when to not believe protestations of innocence from a shady seller (such as yourself).
Unless you can provide any of the proof you have been asked for or show that the majority of complaints against you originate with sellers known to cause issues and make false claims then you are sunk.
And, as you have already shown you are incapable of doing this.
Man, you really could have benefited from sitting in on the lecture given by The Reptile Report(Chad Brown and Robyn Markland), Brian Barczyk and Mark Mandic at the CRBE this weekend. Each and everyone of those people epitomize what reptile enthusiast should be while, you represent everything we should all strive to never be like.
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Since I would hate for you to look like a liar :rolleyes: can you please provide proof such as vet reports.
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I told that Rich Z to refund the money someone paid for me to be a member as I did not wish to belong to that group of morons and also he knows I had to freeze some of his sick corn snakes he asked me to ship to germany.
Funny are everyone else has to post proof but you seem exempt from it.
Here is your reality
There are the people who say nothing so they must be happy (not a surprised that people don’t complain since any complaint is spinned into an extortion attempt)
There are the liars/extortionists
There are the people who ask YOU for proof who are helping liars and extortionists.
And there are the happy customers, yet no real proof since rather than posting screen copies on your page you just have a bunch of stuff type up (anyone can type up anything on the internet, you are definitely a proof of that.)
Your reality is definitely interesting, you must be one of those that their mommy told they were special and could do no wrong, that if something happened it was not them it was other people's fault.
So for the fun of it entertain me some more, why are there SO MANY people wanting to extort YOU yet other breeders don’t have that problem? (Paranoid much?)
For the record I don’t care about YOU, your money, your animals, in my world you are insignificant and a waste of key strokes to be honest.
Anyway keep on posting and showing your true colors it definitely helps potential customers in their decision process. :gj:
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Re: Dan Scolaro (DTS Herps)
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Originally Posted by DTS HERPS
Neal has zero credit and he admits he has no proof. I have thousands of great feedback reports from thousands of legitimate buyers. If your friend is so loyal, then maybe you can explain what's loyal about waking 4 years later to moan about snakes he reported as receiving in good shape.
The definition of credibility from Webster's Dictionary: : the quality of being believed or accepted as true, real, or honest.
You have shown yourself to be dishonest so you DO NOT HAVE credibility. Neal has shown himself to be honest so he HAS credibility.
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Originally Posted by DTS HERPS
BH: So you are saying that Neal's personal relationship friends attached to this forum are the same folks that are standing behind his 4 year wake up to knock a seller with no proof? Are you one of his personal friends? Then perhaps stand up for your friend and explain why he woke 4 years later to moan over a snake he reported otherwise in good shape?
I don't know who all Neal has friends with. I don't stalk people like that. And no, I'm not a personal friend. I have communicated through the forum threads and VIA private messages but nothing outside of the forum. From our correspondence, he's a nice, credible guy. I've got nothing bad to say about him.
Neal has a right to explain about his bad experience. Whether or not it happened today or three years ago. If he had wanted a refund, then that would have been a different story. But he didn't want a refund. He just wanted other people to see that he had two bad experiences with you and wanted people to steer clear of buying. If he hadn't have posted these threads, I may have been tempted to buy from you (until I looked at the BOI to see what a liar you are and then chose not to buy from you anyway). Because he informed me of the situation, I now have more information to make an educated decision about buying from you.
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Raven, what makes you think me or anyone would need your recommendation for business or wants your business? You are standing behind someone who claims to have woken 4 years later to moan about a snake that he otherwise reported to of received in great shape. And you have been unsuccessful to dodge an explanation as to why your friend woke and presented such conjecture. And unsuccessful to stand behind your conjecture and take a bet to prove your false accusations of created feedback reports. And if I am sunk, then why do I have a dozen orders to fill for shipping tomorrow? You want to be like me? OK. Stand your ground and don't take any huff from morons. What makes you think I am shady? I gave away 2 dozen snakes the last month so is that shady?
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Here's my frustration: I want a pair of snail-eating snakes, and Mr. Scolaro can produce these rarities (probably from illegal means, but I'm not inquiring.) whereas nearly no one else can. It would be very easy to buy from him, and had I not seen this thread, I can say for a certainty that I WOULD HAVE. But Mr. Scolaro's behavior is appalling, and I do not want to support such a keeper.
(PS- If you know anyone other than our friend here who sells snail-eating snakes OR common slug-eaters, please PM me!!)
(Pps- Neal didn't just 'wake up one day'. As he stated earlier, he was reviewing ALL sellers he had had dealings with. Don't think you're a special little snowflake, Mr. Scolaro.)
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Deborah: What decision process? Are you sticking up for Rich Z? Are you trying to hurt me by making me fall out of my chair laughing. Sure you care about me or else you would not be here explaining why not. And BH, Neal never had a bad experience or else he would of proven he did. Why not spend your time explaining why he had a dream about me and woke 4 years later to mention a snake he reported otherwise in great shape.
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Anya, so its snail eaters you want? Illegal means? Nope. Imported legally through game inspectors in Miami. But why would you want to buy them from me? I mean Neal and treeboa have made claim to of woken from a 4 year stupor to point blame on great snakes they otherwise reported, and you are pretending to believe them without any proof or providing any reasonable explanation as to why they woke from this stupor and attacked me. So if you can explain their stupor or why they attacked 4 years later, then I will send you a snail eater free of charge.
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if i've learned one thing from this thread, it's that if you EVER have a customer that's not 100% satisfied, you apologize, try n fix it, and keep your mouth SHUT. this guy has dug himself a whole so deep i wouldn't be surprised if he was replying to this thread from china by now.
DTS- all you're doing is demanding proof. "GIVE ME PROOF! GIVE ME PROOF!"
Where's yours..?
You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your friend's eye.
This thread has almost 2,500 views.. and I can promise you not a single one of those that have read it thinks any higher of you than they did beforehand.
I'm just waiting for Kobylka to stop in and drop a line.
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Re: Dan Scolaro (DTS Herps)
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Originally Posted by DTS HERPS
Rabernet, so are you saying that you are so high on a pedestal that you do not at least have 100 dollars in your savings account to stand behind your conjecture? You stand to make 100 more if your conjecture is proven correct. Do not miss this opportunity as your friends are watching and they are eager to see you proven correct. And are you forgetting it is Sunday and you have the entire day to wash as few cars and make a 100 bucks and come back to stand behind your implications. Can you get a loan or is there a problem with credit?
I don't need nor want your money and I'm not playing your game. Either put up or shut up. I don't trust you and I wouldn't trust you with even a penny. You have been proven to be a silly side show these last few days with zero credibility.
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Re: Dan Scolaro (DTS Herps)
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Originally Posted by DTS HERPS
Judy, why would you consider to close this? Rabernet has reported to be washing cars to raise 100 bucks and I want him to bet and stand behind his conjecture. Lets see how many cars he gets done with by the end of the day. Anyone else want to loan him 100? Truth of what matter you say? What matter? Do you have a reasonable explanation as to why neal and treeboa woke 4 years later to moan about perfect snakes they reported as receiving and then demised them under their care and complained 4 years later?
Rabernet is not a "him".
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Snakegeek: I agree that if someone is not happy then make it much better. But how can another party apologize and make it better if they are not informed of any disatisfaction? Oh, apologize 4 years later? Neal already admitted he was wrong and apologized.
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Rabernet, I told you to put up or shut up on your conjecture about false feedback reports and you tell me the same thing back? Silly side show? Come on now. Tell me you don't appreciate and value the lesson you have been taught these last 2 days.
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Re: Dan Scolaro (DTS Herps)
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Originally Posted by DTS HERPS
Snakegeek: I agree that if someone is not happy then make it much better. But how can another party apologize and make it better if they are not informed of any disatisfaction? Oh, apologize 4 years later? Neal already admitted he was wrong and apologized.
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Originally Posted by TheSnakeGeek
..and keep your mouth SHUT..
DTS- all you're doing is demanding proof. "GIVE ME PROOF! GIVE ME PROOF!"
Where's yours..?
You hypocrite..
^this was more so directed towards you. :gj:
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Re: Dan Scolaro (DTS Herps)
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Originally Posted by DTS HERPS
Raven, what makes you think me or anyone would need your recommendation for business or wants your business? You are standing behind someone who claims to have woken 4 years later to moan about a snake that he otherwise reported to of received in great shape. And you have been unsuccessful to dodge an explanation as to why your friend woke and presented such conjecture. And unsuccessful to stand behind your conjecture and take a bet to prove your false accusations of created feedback reports. And if I am sunk, then why do I have a dozen orders to fill for shipping tomorrow? You want to be like me? OK. Stand your ground and don't take any huff from morons. What makes you think I am shady? I gave away 2 dozen snakes the last month so is that shady?
Okay, I'll tell you what.
Add Mr.Kobylka to your FB page and ask him openly for a customer review or to chime in on the veracity of his name being attached to your glowing reviews. If I see that I may revise my opinion but, I am not holding my breath.
Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if people soon start suing you for using their name without permission to misrepresent your business. You do realise that when using a positive review it is proper to ask that person if you may reprint it and only an idiot does not keep that permission readily available just for cases like this, where you claim he must have forgotten buying bloods from you(I will :sweeet: if it turns out he has never owned bloods).
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Loving the lessons learned from this thread....research the seller first, then purchase so I don't end up on the wrong end of things :p
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Raven, I already informed you to ask him to email me if indeed he forgot as it was years ago perhaps. Regardless if he forgot or not, his sentence will remain there with the other thousands of great feedback reports and you will just have to find a way to live with it.
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Meph: I agree and research the buyer first or else they may wake from a stupor 4 years later and blame you for making their snake sick.
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Dan Scolaro (DTS Herps)
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Originally Posted by Mephibosheth1
Loving the lessons learned from this thread....research the seller first, then purchase so I don't end up on the wrong end of things :p
exactly. and despite what this DTS person says, the BOI on fauna is a WONDERFUL tool. i've used it many times to find sellers with great reviews, and I have yet to run into a single problem. true, there may be some good sellers with a bad review or two.. but i bet you could find anything you own that you absolutely love, electronic or cell phone or whatever, and look at all the reviews online and there will be a couple bad ones.. it's like that with anything. the products or companies you want to steer away from are the ones that have a lot of bad reviews.. much like the person in question here..
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Snakegeek: Agreed - learned even on this forum to not sell to treeboa or Neal again. Fauna is great. I get hundreds of customers referred to me each month from their web page and dozens more scam artists take their tactics to some other seller. I wish there were more places like that on the web.
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"Hundreds of new customers every month!" "Tens of thousands of animals sold every year!" Geez, Dan, where DO you find the time??? How big are your facilities? How many employees do you hire? I've personally seen some massive breeding facilities with multiple employees that don't claim the numbers you're claiming...and I've seen video and photos of the facilities that DO claim the numbers you are claiming....and they're on a scale that is hard for most hobbyist breeders to imagine. And not a single one of those folks have even a fraction of the difficulties you have with "scammers" and "extortionists". And not a single one of them has a solid 48 hours to do nothing but sit around on a little internet forum and bicker with folks for no purpose whatsoever. :rolleyes:
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Judy, don't you realize that he sells millions and millions of anoles. And I bet he imports thousands of house geckos and no doubt rice frogs,(they're about an inch long full grown) or whatever they're calling them this year. You could house thousands of those in a 5X5ft room. Short of that, I think, as he usually does, he has slightly HAHAHAHA exaggerated actual numbers.
I'm thinking ol dannyboy wouldn't know the truth if it big him on his pinichio nose.
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Re: Dan Scolaro (DTS Herps)
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Originally Posted by DTS HERPS
Raven, I already informed you to ask him to email me if indeed he forgot as it was years ago perhaps. Regardless if he forgot or not, his sentence will remain there with the other thousands of great feedback reports and you will just have to find a way to live with it.
Now you are showing your idiocy here too clearly to not point out (to you as I am sure everyone else can see it just fine).
You claim to have not only sold a well known breeder snake but, to have received and been given permission to reprint a glowing customer service statement. Therefore, you have his e-mail and a copy of his permission to use that statement handy. I have not purchased anything from him myself. Therefore, I do not have his information stored in my email contact list (where it goes automatically anytime i email anyone), as you would if you weren't full of :cens0r:.
I believe I have just handed you a shovel to dig yourself a deeper hole. Have fun with that.
As to "his" statement staying on your page. I'll bet that only lasts as long as he doesn't see it. His name is his brand. I really can't see how you could avoid being sued out from under whatever rock you call home, should he decide to take action and you refuse to comply with a cease and desist demand.
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Dan Scolaro (DTS Herps)
There's a lot to be said for professional decorum, and I see none of it here on the part of the seller in question. With over 2500 views, I'm sure most people are reading plenty into your presentation of your business attitude, whether their judgements are favorable or not is your decision to make.
Regardless of the facts, the sheer amount of aggression on the part of the seller makes me reluctant to buy, from a professional standpoint.
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Dan Scolaro (DTS Herps)
I'm a loudmouth. I bet you $100 you can't provide an email from justin kobylka about feedback on buying bloods from you. I'm taking your bet, now lets see it.
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Re: Dan Scolaro (DTS Herps)
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Originally Posted by Mike41793
I'm a loudmouth. I bet you $100 you can't provide an email from justin kobylka about feedback on buying bloods from you. I'm taking your bet, now lets see it.
ill double that.
ill add 200 to this, so total if you provide proof, beyond a shadow of a doubt, then you will recieve a total of 300 dollars. for providing said "proof" that you are so eager to seek.
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As discussed, ask him nicely to email me and I will then look into his great purcahse. You may deposit your funds at my paypal is danscolaro@aol.com
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Look who's trying to scam others now.....
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Ava: Maybe do us all a favor and can you ask one of those 2500 people to explain why treeboa and Neal woke 4 years later to moan over a snake they reported as otherwise arriving great and then later made sick? My business attitude? Do you mean like giving away free snakes last week or asking for proof of false accusations? And where have I been aggressive as I am just having fun with kids here and they are coming back for more as they cannot sit still.
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Re: Dan Scolaro (DTS Herps)
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Originally Posted by DTS HERPS
As discussed, ask him nicely to email me and I will then look into his great purcahse. You may deposit your funds at my paypal is danscolaro@aol.com
Anyone would be a fool to send money first for something where the burden of proof is on you, and your character is questionable as displayed here. What's the matter? You want him to email you first so you can fake his email header?
Its YOUR reputation on the line. Justin's is, without question, stellar. He's never had bloods in his collection. If he says he never purchased from you, that's good enough for me. You, on the other hand are a master at deflection.
Everyone's picking on poor wittle Dan. Poor wittle Dan can't answer direct questions. Poor wittle Dan is a victim. Poor wittle Dan can't provide a shred of evidence that he didn't make up all his positive feedback, so he has to bluster and puff his chest out and........ Look, squirrel!
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So what you are saying is that this Justin fellow is a well known blood python breeder and I made his last name up from the blue? On the contrary, he (and many like him) are successful breeders/keepers because they bought quality animals and received great service from DTS HERPS. Check the link - there are many more well known breeders that were grateful for my help. http://www.dtsherpsinc.com/Customer_Feedback.html http://www.dtsherpsinc.com/Customer-Feedback--2-.html http://www.dtsherpsinc.com/Customerfeedback-3.html http://www.dtsherpsinc.com/Customer-Feedback----4.html And these are not even half of the great comments received from great buyers.
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Rabernet, check the links if you are worried about reputations. http://www.dtsherpsinc.com/Customer_Feedback.html http://www.dtsherpsinc.com/Customer-Feedback--2-.html http://www.dtsherpsinc.com/Customerfeedback-3.html http://www.dtsherpsinc.com/Customer-Feedback----4.html So far, all I have seen you guys do is support 2 guys that woke from a stupor and decided to set out and harm a vendor for no reason and with no proof. So if you want to support your friends then perhaps explain why they ganged up on my for now reason. Oh, explain why you are ganging up also for no reason. If Justin emails me then I can track his purchase in my saved email files and also via paypal. But before any work is done on this end, I would like you to deposit your bets into my paypal account because I do not have faith that you will pay when you loose. No offense but I never heard of ya's before.
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Dan Scolaro (DTS Herps)
Personally, I'm not speaking of the issues that these two buyers had with you as transactions. I speak of the combative tone of text that you take when challenged, particularly throughout this thread. I'm sure your snakes are fine and dandy nowadays, at least to your standards, but a prospective buyer viewing this thread would make me think twice about buying an animal from you if all of your transactions go this way and are met with the kind of childish uproar you are making.
"Having fun" with two former customers who had bad experiences with you does not make you a good salesman.
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Re: Dan Scolaro (DTS Herps)
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Originally Posted by DTS HERPS
He's a well known ball python breeder (and you know that already) who did not buy any of his stock from the likes of you.
Your links are worthless, by the way.
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Re: Dan Scolaro (DTS Herps)
And of course you didn't make up his name, you stole his good reputation to fake yours.
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Ava, thanks and what makes you think I am concerned about sales? It has to be quite obvious that if I were then I would not be here knocking off kids on my back. Or are you jumping to conclusions that I am worried about sales. No worries. If someone is offset that a gang is attacking a vendor, then more power to them and they can take their business elsewhere. I prefer to trade/sell to sound minded folk who are smart enough to see past the huff and BS. And if something does not sell, it will within weeks/days, so no worries etc. I actually love animals more than anyone I ever met and I do not like packing and saying good bye to them and usually hold new animals for weeks before selling them to ensure that they are not only healthy and great, but to decide if I want to keep it or not. This works for me as an animal lover and works for the customer who gets a healthy critter and so far there's been no reports of a single sick animal received in thousands of sales. Not dozens, not hundreds, but thousands. Do you know any other vendor who's shipped thousands and has not one report of a sick animal? You do now. As far as sales go, one of the 2500 you mentioned proceeded to email me last night and bought some animals because he was referred to this exact thread. So who would of thought right. Good karma for good people.
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Rabernet, no offense but do you know how young you appear to claim I stole his name? He could sue me if I did that so could one of several thousands of folks who's name appears there. If I did, then by now he would be emailing me - but he's not. So how else do I find his email if I don't have it? Regardless, it remains as that is what he wrote whether he claims it or not these days.
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Re: Dan Scolaro (DTS Herps)
Wow, even if everything he says is true, I still don't like him.:grabbed:
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And outside observation reveals that many folks here are overly worried about their reputations. Why? Will that put more money or an advantage into your pocket later through sales/trades? Indirectly, it's like saying that you are selfish? Hum? And you are willing to swing at someone else to make yourself look better? Heck, that sounds all too much like the BOI. Are folks being copycats?
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Re: Dan Scolaro (DTS Herps)
Dan, can you search your email for the ones between you and Justin? Every email service has a search bar or search function to find old emails.
Just input his name or email address.
Then screen cap and post here.
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Wienkeg, Of course you don't like me. I would ask for your feedback on receiving an animal and you would report a great animal and then have zero abilities later to claim it was sick and try to extort and rob. But if you woke for a stupor 4 years later, then you can get your friends here to knock me further for sending healthy and great animals to you. Am I right or wrong?
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What is his email address as that other did not work and my computer is new this year so I have to try at my computer at my shop as that one is 2 years old and should have his email in the saved files on AOL. But remember, to win a cookie, you must bet and deposit the funds into my paypal account so I can prove you wrong as I don't work for peanuts you know.
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Re: Dan Scolaro (DTS Herps)
You are seriously insane to ask people to deposit money into your paypal. Who do you think you are? Out of this entire thread, that's the craziest thing I've read so far.
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Tell treeboa that someone read this post a few moments ago and asked to buy some water snakes. Thanks all.
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