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Just had a conversation about this with someone. They have already told their senetors they favor the bill, as did half their church congregation apparently. Their logic was, once man and snake parted ways in eden, we were no longer ment to co exist

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Just had a conversation about this with someone. They have already told their senetors they favor the bill, as did half their church congregation apparently. Their logic was, once man and snake parted ways in eden, we were no longer ment to co exist

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That reasoning ticks me off more than irrational fear does. I'm a Christian and own 10 snakes, and I hear this sort of thing all the time! "Satan was a snake, so that means snakes are evil!"

I usually then provide an argument for that by starting that there are stories in the Bible that had snakes portrayed as good guys as well; in Exodus when Moses turned his staff into a snake to show off God's power to Pharaoh. And before that when God was talking to Moses through the burning bush and Moses was afraid of the snake, God specifically said not to be afraid of snakes!

Then when they try and go on, I interrupt by stating that Jesus once compared HIMSELF to a snake and that Christians are suppose to be "wise like serpents"! And in Proverbs, it specifically says that God loves snakes, and since God hates evil then that means snakes are good (with the obvious exception to Satan). After that they either shut up or get mad at me for exposing that the real reason they don't like snakes is because of simple irrational fear hidden by religion.

*Sigh* Sorry to get the topic off track, but that's just my biggest pet peeve: people using religion as an excuse to hate snakes, especially when the Bible says otherwise.

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That reasoning ticks me off more than irrational fear does. I'm a Christian and own 10 snakes, and I hear this sort of thing all the time! "Satan was a snake, so that means snakes are evil!"

I usually then provide an argument for that by starting that there are stories in the Bible that had snakes portrayed as good guys as well; in Exodus when Moses turned his staff into a snake to show off God's power to Pharaoh. And before that when God was talking to Moses through the burning bush and Moses was afraid of the snake, God specifically said not to be afraid of snakes!

Then when they try and go on, I interrupt by stating that Jesus once compared HIMSELF to a snake and that Christians are suppose to be "wise like serpents"! And in Proverbs, it specifically says that God loves snakes, and since God hates evil then that means snakes are good (with the obvious exception to Satan). After that they either shut up or get mad at me for exposing that the real reason they don't like snakes is because of simple irrational fear hidden by religion.

*Sigh* Sorry to get the topic off track, but that's just my biggest pet peeve: people using religion as an excuse to hate snakes, especially when the Bible says otherwise.

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+1 That always gets my blood boiling. I know of a lady who actively chops their heads off with a shovel (nevermind that PA only has two common venomous species and the only one around here are very easily spotted copperheads) and when asked why she says it's because God said to crush the enemy's head with our heel and since Satan was a serpent it means snakes are evil and should be killed on sight. And others who say "but wasn't Satan a snake...?" when they find out that I'm Christian and still adore snakes of all sorts.

Anyways >.> I'm writing a persuasive essay on this topic. Even though the species have been officially added, at least it'll get the word out to some non-snake owners that the government is getting away with this nonsense and hopefully we'll have some backup for when they try to add in the rest of the "dangerous" species. I've been asked by a couple friends to share it with them so they can forward it to their own local herp societies as well, so major crossing my fingers there.

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+1 That always gets my blood boiling. I know of a lady who actively chops their heads off with a shovel (nevermind that PA only has two common venomous species and the only one around here are very easily spotted copperheads) and when asked why she says it's because God said to crush the enemy's head with our heel and since Satan was a serpent it means snakes are evil and should be killed on sight. And others who say "but wasn't Satan a snake...?" when they find out that I'm Christian and still adore snakes of all sorts.

Anyways >.> I'm writing a persuasive essay on this topic. Even though the species have been officially added, at least it'll get the word out to some non-snake owners that the government is getting away with this nonsense and hopefully we'll have some backup for when they try to add in the rest of the "dangerous" species. I've been asked by a couple friends to share it with them so they can forward it to their own local herp societies as well, so major crossing my fingers there.

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My parents do this, awful to just cut a snakes head off for a false reason. The bible doesnt really say to do that (my mother having her doctorate in theology, and as a current rev. For a methodist church, backed thisup for me)

I find it funny all these christians do that because of the Adam and Eve story, when snakes are portrayed throughout the entire bible and in the Adam and Eve story Satan chose the form of a snake because they were wise and trusted. I'm not going to bash on all religious people, but most of them need to learn what they are talking about before they feel self justified in doing something stupid....

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Originally Posted by King-Godzilla

That reasoning ticks me off more than irrational fear does. I'm a Christian and own 10 snakes, and I hear this sort of thing all the time! "Satan was a snake, so that means snakes are evil!"

I usually then provide an argument for that by starting that there are stories in the Bible that had snakes portrayed as good guys as well; in Exodus when Moses turned his staff into a snake to show off God's power to Pharaoh. And before that when God was talking to Moses through the burning bush and Moses was afraid of the snake, God specifically said not to be afraid of snakes!

Then when they try and go on, I interrupt by stating that Jesus once compared HIMSELF to a snake and that Christians are suppose to be "wise like serpents"! And in Proverbs, it specifically says that God loves snakes, and since God hates evil then that means snakes are good (with the obvious exception to Satan). After that they either shut up or get mad at me for exposing that the real reason they don't like snakes is because of simple irrational fear hidden by religion.

*Sigh* Sorry to get the topic off track, but that's just my biggest pet peeve: people using religion as an excuse to hate snakes, especially when the Bible says otherwise.

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i couldn't have said it any better brotha:gj:

can i get a copy of this petition?

can a foreigner sign this ?

These bans on animals and guns, all they do is punish law abiding citizans. When are they going to learn/care that laws do nothing for stoping criminals, it just turns us into criminals.:mad:

I second that corey and I will have to remind others of those bible verses king godzilla

So, I sent this, and I actually got a reply from my senator to me a month later via e-mail.

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Thank you for contacting me regarding US Fish & Wildlife Service's proposed Constrictor Rule. I am glad to have the benefit of your views on this issue.
I appreciate your making me aware of the concerns you have if this specific rule is implemented. Currently, the agency is reviewing comments it received on the proposed rule to determine what changes should be made before issuing a final rule. It is my hope that the final rule will not adversely impact Mississippians. Be assured I will continue to monitor this issue as the rule-making process moves forward, and I will keep your views in mind if Congress considers legislation affecting constrictors after the final regulation is released. Please do not hesitate to contact me if I can ever assist you.

With best wishes, I am

Sincerely yours,
Roger F. Wicker
U.S. Senate

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Probably typed by an assistant, but I've sent petitions before and I've never gotten a response. I thought it was cool. :P

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+1 That always gets my blood boiling. I know of a lady who actively chops their heads off with a shovel (nevermind that PA only has two common venomous species and the only one around here are very easily spotted copperheads) and when asked why she says it's because God said to crush the enemy's head with our heel and since Satan was a serpent it means snakes are evil and should be killed on sight. And others who say "but wasn't Satan a snake...?" when they find out that I'm Christian and still adore snakes of all sorts.

Anyways >.> I'm writing a persuasive essay on this topic. Even though the species have been officially added, at least it'll get the word out to some non-snake owners that the government is getting away with this nonsense and hopefully we'll have some backup for when they try to add in the rest of the "dangerous" species. I've been asked by a couple friends to share it with them so they can forward it to their own local herp societies as well, so major crossing my fingers there.

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She can put herself on my list of enemies and I will Happily act accordingly. ;) anyone have a pair of the antique metal scuba diving boots?!?

I don't think that you should be able to own any of the big constrictors unless you go thru a government back ground check kind of like buying a gun. Do I agree with the government just banning them and doing what ever they want? No....

Do I agree with them that Giant 20 foot Burms, anacondas, mambas ect breeding in Florida isn't cool? Cause some idiot didn't want to care for them and let them go? I sure do, something has to be done with it but the way the government tries to handle things like this is why I'm thankful for USARK.

Anyways heres a video showing how Burms are are adapting and will be able to push up into NY and be able to survive. I know when I let my kids go out side I don't wanna have to worry about a giant burm when they go into the woods to play. ( Yeah I'm country)

Ignore the hybrid BS parts in this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUVbgA3DN0A

Hahahha... yeah okay. Ill believe that the Burms can make it up to NY when they openly state with proof that they have established a breeding population in NY. They keep putting these half a&@ televisions shows on,
Depicting snakes as vindictive evil monsters that are going to quickly adapt and take over the US. Seems to be just another way for our government to push there anti reptile/ exotic propaganda on people with miseducation pertaining to the animals in question... . Sad.

http://conservationmaven.com/frontpa...on-invasi.html

<--- they can't seem to make up their mind. :p

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Hahahha... yeah okay. Ill believe that the Burms can make it up to NY when they openly state with proof that they have established a breeding population in NY. They keep putting these half a&@ televisions shows on,
Depicting snakes as vindictive evil monsters that are going to quickly adapt and take over the US. Seems to be just another way for our government to push there anti reptile/ exotic propaganda on people with miseducation pertaining to the animals in question... . Sad.

http://conservationmaven.com/frontpa...on-invasi.html

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Amen.

We ALL need to stay informed and be proactive in situations like this.

Four printed letters sent, four emails sent. I gave them a fake address since I'm leaving in a month and don't know where I'll end up, but it should help the cause all the same. The address was verified by the website, so it shouldn't be an issue. Hope it helps!
I honestly don't care about what they think they're trying to regulate. It's the fact that they have been and continuously step over whatever rights they think are "inconvenient" to further their own political agendas. Apparently, the right of Freedom of Expression is a shadow of what it used to be. Not to mention big business seems to think it's okay to try and snub out every small business that emerges, even if it isn't in the same category or class of competition. But, that's more political than I feel like being. I'm here to learn about the snakes that I've always wanted to own and care for, and help others to do the same. If that makes me a felon, then I think we ought to put people in charge who think like we do and support what we believe in.