What's this??

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Originally Posted by J.Vandegrift

Between them taking so long to exit the egg, the cord wrapped baby, the weak one, and the dead ones, something must have been off at some point during the incubation. Could have been too wet, too dry, maybe your thermostat is off... could have been a bunch of things. Just my opinion but incubation issues have been been know to result in some crazy hatchlings. Hopefully I am wrong. Either way it's a sweet looking snake.

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This is what I have been saying the entire time. Something just isn't right.

I would buy a new thermometer or two and re-check your temps. What T-stat are your using on this incubator?

I'm terribly sorry for your losses w/ this clutch. I hope the remaining animals do okay for you. Please keep us updated.

I check the temperature by having three thermometers in the incubator at the same time so that I'm able to tell if it's okay.
And if her babies do survive, there are two pastels and two normals alive, would it be better to breed her with one of them?

Too bad that interesting looking little one didn't make it. :(

Personally, I would repeat the same pairing next year. Since you have no real knowledge as to what is going on, you don't know if you might be eliminating the interesting genes (if it is genetic at all) by pairing the mother with one of her offspring.

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Originally Posted by kc261

Personally, I would repeat the same pairing next year. Since you have no real knowledge as to what is going on, you don't know if you might be eliminating the interesting genes (if it is genetic at all) by pairing the mother with one of her offspring.

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I agree. I would do then same pairing again.

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Originally Posted by DemmBalls

I agree. I would do then same pairing again.

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+1 to this. I know it sucks losing such interesting animals but I wouldn't just leave this to "something wrong with incubation". If it happens again you know not to pair them again, unless of course you get something that survives without issues.

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Dude, that''s so sad. Poor little guy. I'll be interested to see the others grow up, though, so make sure you keep us up to date with pictures!

If it died before the coloring stage of it's life, wouldn't it just stop at that color? It wouldn't loose the color it already had would it? I am wondering this because I am thinking that maybe it was just a pastel that died in the egg before all of it's coloring was complete. I know I read in the post that the eggs might have been cut open a little to early. I am not criticizing you for this I am just trying to ask questions so that I and others might not run into the same problem down the road. I still think that it was one nice looking snake.

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Originally Posted by Clint Bundy

If it died before the coloring stage of it's life, wouldn't it just stop at that color? It wouldn't loose the color it already had would it? I am wondering this because I am thinking that maybe it was just a pastel that died in the egg before all of it's coloring was complete. I know I read in the post that the eggs might have been cut open a little to early. I am not criticizing you for this I am just trying to ask questions so that I and others might not run into the same problem down the road. I still think that it was one nice looking snake.

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I would think this, but only a few of them died. After a few days, most naturally slithered out of their respective eggs. Even this little guy came out! Also, his cutting time was pretty on time...not enormously early. He said himself he's had many successful clutches cut at the length he did.

But obviously something went wrong...sigh. :(

heyim sorry to hear tht the baby didnt make it but i think i found a close id to the morph mabe an axanthic bumble bee or a spider killer bee axanthic just from the pics ive seen the pattern is simmalar except for the completely white head
http://www.worldofballpythons.com/mo...ic-bumble-bee/
looks really simular hope for the rest to be well:gj:

The rest of the clutch seems to be ok.
I`ll upload some pictures once the babies have shed for the first time.

I have always cut the eggs on day 55 and there has never been any problems before.
But I will wait until day 60 before I cut the next clutch,they are currently on day 47.
I will write how it goes........

I will do the same pairing next season and hope for the best,if the results are the same I know that it`s something genetic and then I have to try with another male.

Thank you for sharing. It is very exciting. I am sorry he didn't make it. :(

sorry to hear that special guy/gal didnt make it, i actually have a 10 egg pastelx normal clutch myself and that little guy/gal has made me excited (even though i know i wont get one lol). thanks for this post it has me all hyped up to see what i get, good job :gj:

p.s. i know i wont forget about that lil weirdo ;).

no, I won`t forget him either,let`s just hope that we will get another one next year.
The female is a big feeder and hopefully she grows a bit more and maybe lay a bigger clutch and then the chances will grow that we get another " weird supersnake".
I will keep you update how it goes:)

Remember the pastel that hatched a few days before the weird looking snake?
Well, it's shed for the first time now(double shed). It has also gained some weight, from the starting 17g to 39g!

Here are some pictures of it:
http://reptiles72.webs.com/reji3.jpg
http://reptiles72.webs.com/reji2.jpg
http://reptiles72.webs.com/reji1.jpg

Nice colouration don't you think?

Beautiful baby :) Love it!

A bit off-pattern, but there has to be more in it than just pastel.....

Not as amazing as still in the egg...but still really nice.

Ohh I Agree there is for Sure something going on here... Love peach color on that snake :gj::gj::gj:
If it is a boy I'll breed him to mother and see what happens...

Good luck with Your little project :gj:

Thanks, I just hope that the "super snake-gene" isn't recessive if it's a gene, then this pastel is just poss. het for "super-snake":rolleyes:

I really hope that the "pastel" and it's normal sibling, who also is alive are 1.1 so i can breed them back to their parents.....

Great looking little bugger! It looks similar to a pastel spotnose with a full dorsal stripe?

How is your incubator set up. I had something similar happen with a clutch that was too close to the heat tape in an incubator. Didn't realize it but the area constantly had small temp spikes to the mid 90's everytime the tape came on to keep the incubator at 89.5.

Aww, what a cutie! ^.^

A really peach-yellowish colour, nice!

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Originally Posted by JimmyLindberg

A really peach-yellowish colour, nice!

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Det var en lång tråd du har skaffat dig :D Hur går det för du hade la mer ägg på gång?

It was a long thread you have acquired :D How are things going for you because you had more eggs on the way?
stupid google translate :D