TOFFEE Ball PROVEN

this is awesome to hear!

weWill be coming down from winnipeg for this show also!! :D

Craig message me, maybe were in the same hotel. a bunch of the bp.net crew wanna get togethor

Shawn

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All I can say is wow!!!! I apologize for the delayed response to this thread. I have been off with the flu and didn’t see this post until I got back into the office.

I think I need to state a few things for the record but before I do that I want to give a great big congratulation to Paul for proving out the Toffee. It’s a fantastic accomplishment and a huge leap forward for this exciting project. Great job buddy!!!

As the owner of the Toffee I would be lying if I said I wasn’t the least bit envious of Paul right now. As selfish as it may sound I wish I was the one posting those photos particularly considering what we’ve invested both financial and emotionally into this project. It cost us a total of $130,000 USD to acquire the Toffee Ball and when we initially got him into our facility in 2005 he didn’t feed for almost 9 months. Then if that wasn’t enough stress, once we got him established and feeding the 2006 breeding season was upon us and he had absolutely no interest in breeding. I can handle stress well but at this point I was ready to crack, which I think most of you would appreciate.

The only reason I am disclosing all this is because I think it’s important that people realize what goes on behind the scenes in developing a new project. Many of us have heard about these incredible amounts invested into single animals but they are usually passed on through the grapevine and it’s hard to believe it. So when I look at some of the pioneers of the ball python industry like Peter Kahl Reptiles, VPI, NERD, BHB, Ralph Davis Reptiles, Snake Keeper, Outback Reptiles and Reptile Industries to name a few I have a great deal of respect for these individuals . I’m not trying to put myself on their level, all I am trying to say is I can appreciate first hand what some of these guys have gone through. So I think you could imagine the relief we felt when we produced our fist het offspring in 2007. This was one huge milestone for us. We could finally breath normal once again knowing the genetics behind this animal had been passed on. In other words we had moved all of the eggs from one basket.

Initially I wanted to hold back every single animal but due to the financial investment we had into this project we felt that we had to take some of the money off the table and sell a limited number of them. I was confident that the offspring would sell well but we did not expect them to sell as quickly as they did. We completely sold out of the 6 pairs and 3 single males we offered for sale in the matter of a few weeks. A couple pairs went into the US, a few overseas and some in Canada. We later decided to offer another pair for sale, which were purchased by Paul Angelides of the UK. This is the pair that produced Paul’s Toffee babies and the baby pictured within this thread.

The 2007/2008 breeding season had started and unfortunately the Toffee developed a very mild respiratory infection and we didn’t want to put him at risk so we pulled him out of cycling, treated him with antibiotics and wrote the season off. This moved us onto the 2008/2009 breeding season. Some of our het girls from 2007 were growing great and getting big so we figured we would give them a go in early 2009, which we did. Unfortunately none of them took. I can appreciate why some of you may be wondering why we didn’t produce offspring from these girls but if you have any experience with young females you would know that this is not uncommon. However we did produce a few het clutches this season so we were pleased with the overall results. The long and short of it is there are a very, very limited number of these het offspring around and from the results of this years sales, the hets continue to be in high demand. We were taking reservations on females before they had even hatched and I think from what I am about to describe that demand is going to increase even more.

While I was away with the flu a very excited Paul Angelides had contacted and spoken to Paul Begg, one of our team members here at The Urban Python. Paul explained that he had just pipped his four eggs from the 100% Het Toffee X 100% Het Toffee pairing and had revealed two Toffee babies. He explained that they did not look anything like the adult Toffee and were more similar looking to a normal albino but had the Toffee pattern and a bit different hue to them. I was contacted immediately and informed of this and I couldn’t believe it. Finally the project had officially been proved out thanks to Paul. Although I wish it was us that proved it out, Paul is a great guy and very passionate about his snakes so we are genuinely happy for him. I could only imagine what his reaction was when he piped those eggs. I don’t want this post to take away from the credit Paul deserves for proving the Toffee out. This is a huge accomplishment and we are grateful for the results of his efforts. Thanks again buddy!

So this brings us to current day where I was contacted by a friend and asked if I had seen this thread. I explained to him that I was away sick and hadn’t seen anything. I went onto to the forum to see the photos that Paul had posted and I have to say I was as surprised as everyone else. Other than the pattern of the animal looking Toffee, it appears to have the same qualities as a normal T- albino. I was very confused to say the least so I contacted Pete Kahl who obviously owns the Candy. Pete and I had spoken a bunch of times before about the Candy and Toffee. Pete has had the benefit of seeing both of them in person and we are absolutely confident that they are the same morph. They virtually have the same coloration, pattern and were collected in the same area in Benin. They are the same morph.

When I contacted him he knew exactly why I was calling and jokingly said to me, “Were you freakin’ out when you saw the photos of the baby Toffees?” I went on to explain that I was definitely confused and he laughed and said he should have let me stew a little longer.

Approximately 2 months earlier Pete had hatched out two babies that appeared exactly the same as the baby Toffee in the photo that Paul posted. His first thought was these are normal albinos and wondered what the heck was going on. However, they had the same pattern that the adult Candy and Toffee had so he figured that these must be baby Candy’s and they will go through some incredible color change. Well sure enough after the second shed they were starting to change and by the third shed he couldn’t believe what he was seeing. It was evident to him that this morph was even more remarkable than he had initially anticipated. The baby Candies were changing right in front of his eyes and he was blown away with how quickly it was happening. As we all know Pete has been working with reptiles for many, many years and has a great deal of experience. He went on to described that he has never seen anything like this and was excited to explain how this is not only a new morph but how it develops is very different that anything else he’s seen.

He and I couldn’t be more excited about the results of the Candy and the Toffee and what lays ahead for this morph. So for those of you that thought there’s no way this animal will morph out into an animal that looks like the yearling Candy think again because what Paul has posted is in fact a baby Toffee and hopefully he will continue to share his photos as he experiences the incredible ontogenesis of this morph. Man oh man I cannot wait to hatch out Toffee babies and experience this for myself. The thought of witnessing this morphs development is unlike any other Ball Python morph we know of. I will be speaking to Pete to get some photos posted of the color change of his baby Candy’s. Thanks for taking the time to read my long winded post and if anyone has anymore questions please feel free to contact me personally at 905 264-5557.

On another note we will be attending the North American Breeders Conference in Tinley Park next weekend. We have never done a US show before and we hear that this is an awesome show so if you can make it please drop by our booth and to say hi and let’s talk ball pythons. Thanks again and we look forward to seeing you.

Best regards,

Craig Stewart
The Urban Python
Tel: 905 264-5557

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Shockingly bad pics but I have no time. You can at least see the markings on the sibling and also the Lav look about the head which is still not coming out too well in shots!! I did get one thing wrong, one is a female!! Nice to have her to breed combos back to though....

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Very cool, and congrats on the girl! :) I really look forward to seeing these two as they grow! Could anybody point out the "markers" on the sibs for me? I'd like to hear about that! It looks a bit different, but I can't put my finger on what it is exactly.

I spent some time talking with craig this past weekend, and also go to see a candy ball in person. I still am not sure if the candy and toffee are the same. they seem a bit to different to me :)

I can not wait to get into this prject, so hopefully we get more hets this year craig!

Shawn

just read all the pages.. a lot to take in over the last 10-15 minutes or so lol but a great story indeed and happy to see that the toffee has been proven. :number1:

very exciting morph, congrats! :gj:

When I see the pictures I see albinos. Sorry, but then, I can't tell yellowbellies from normals either.

I hope that these are toffees and that it's proven and you will be proudly showing the first ever captive bred toffee balls! What an achievement that is!

But yeah, I'd have advised you they were albinos too, just looking at the pictures.

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

Nobody finds this thread more amusing than Big Gunns. BG thought at least one of his fans would have let people know the one person that could put this thread to rest once and for all. That one person being The Man, The Myth, The Legend in his own mind himself. There is no bigger expert. (yeah...hard to believe huh):)

BG will say this. Congrats Paul. BG can't say he's even 1% happy for you, but congrats anyway. :)

To all the people that are completely lost by now....you'll just have to ask someone that's "in the know" wtf BG is talking about.:rofl: If you're smart and can read between the lines, you'll realize that Big Gunns has just settled this whole mess with this post.

Holly Hell.. BIG GUNNS...

I really like the look of the toffee ball, glad to hear it proved out!

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:rofl::rofl::rofl:

Nobody finds this thread more amusing than Big Gunns. BG thought at least one of his fans would have let people know the one person that could put this thread to rest once and for all. That one person being The Man, The Myth, The Legend in his own mind himself. There is no bigger expert. (yeah...hard to believe huh):)

BG will say this. Congrats Paul. BG can't say he's even 1% happy for you, but congrats anyway. :)

To all the people that are completely lost by now....you'll just have to ask someone that's "in the know" wtf BG is talking about.:rofl: If you're smart and can read between the lines, you'll realize that Big Gunns has just settled this whole mess with this post.

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WTF!!!! WTF is Big Gunns talkin about!

What exactly is the difference between a toffee/candy ball and lavander albino? Are these toffee/candy morphs simple recessive?

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Originally Posted by twistedtails

WTF!!!! WTF is Big Gunns talkin about!

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Big Gunns works with Candies and by his congratulating Paul, he is giving his approval/opinion :gj::gj::gj: that the hatchlings in question are ...Toffees.

Big Gunns' non-sensical rambling reminds me of someone.

congrats on proving out albinos.

good luck

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Originally Posted by twistedtails

WTF!!!! WTF is Big Gunns talkin about!

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No one can ever decipher his ramblings. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by N4S

congrats on proving out albinos.

good luck

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You really need to re-read this thread and stop being so ignorant and rude to a very popular breeder. clearling your post count does not count for your tactfulness.

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Originally Posted by A&Jsnakes

What exactly is the difference between a toffee/candy ball and lavander albino? Are these toffee/candy morphs simple recessive?

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you also need to re-read this. and look at the pictures posted, and that fact that craig stewart himself stepped in to confirm.

These animals are nothing like an albino aside from whhen they are born, EXACTLY like the candy, which i saw in person this weekend and was told it started as an Albino.


But yes. It's much easier to believe the big breeders with carriers, jobs, and homes ont he line simply come on here to pull a fast one.. and for what reason? if they are lieing, they simply destroy there rep.

I wish those with no name (nno offence) would stop jumping at the big names because they can't believe something. No expertise in a matter you should not be commenting short from saying "congrats"


Shawn

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Originally Posted by Big Gunns

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

Nobody finds this thread more amusing than Big Gunns. BG thought at least one of his fans would have let people know the one person that could put this thread to rest once and for all. That one person being The Man, The Myth, The Legend in his own mind himself. There is no bigger expert. (yeah...hard to believe huh):)

BG will say this. Congrats Paul. BG can't say he's even 1% happy for you, but congrats anyway. :)

To all the people that are completely lost by now....you'll just have to ask someone that's "in the know" wtf BG is talking about.:rofl: If you're smart and can read between the lines, you'll realize that Big Gunns has just settled this whole mess with this post.

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Welcome, Big Gunns. Good to see you ;)

Congrats on the Toffee Balls! Very exciting. Keep up posted with pictures fo the color change PLEASE!

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Originally Posted by Bill Buchman

Big Gunns works with Candies and by his congratulating Paul, he is giving his approval/opinion :gj::gj::gj: that the hatchlings in question are ...Toffees.

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Is Big Gunns who I think it is gracing BP.net with his presence?

BG, you are and forever will be ... my hero. :bow:

-adam

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Originally Posted by Freakie_frog

Holly Hell.. BIG GUNNS...

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Big Gunns understands your excitement, but you're going to need to calm down Freakie F:)

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Originally Posted by twistedtails

WTF!!!! WTF is Big Gunns talkin about!

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You're question anwers another, but BG is too nice to say it.;):D

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Originally Posted by Bill Buchman

Big Gunns works with Candies and by his congratulating Paul, he is giving his approval/opinion :gj::gj::gj: that the hatchlings in question are ...Toffees.

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Billyboy post answers the exact same question about him.:D

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Originally Posted by xscorpio

Big Gunns' non-sensical rambling reminds me of someone.

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No way....there's nobody that intelligent. :P

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Originally Posted by SPJ

No one can ever decipher his ramblings. :rolleyes:

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Billyboy did.;)

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Originally Posted by takagari

You really need to re-read this thread and stop being so ignorant and rude to a very popular breeder. clearling your post count does not count for your tactfulness.



you also need to re-read this. and look at the pictures posted, and that fact that craig stewart himself stepped in to confirm.

These animals are nothing like an albino aside from whhen they are born, EXACTLY like the candy, which i saw in person this weekend and was told it started as an Albino.


But yes. It's much easier to believe the big breeders with carriers, jobs, and homes ont he line simply come on here to pull a fast one.. and for what reason? if they are lieing, they simply destroy there rep.

I wish those with no name (nno offence) would stop jumping at the big names because they can't believe something. No expertise in a matter you should not be commenting short from saying "congrats"


Shawn

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Big Gunns will defend the "no name". If you talk to Pete, they are not the only one that was confused.

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Welcome, Big Gunns. Good to see you ;)

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WTF is going on? A "welcome"? From a moderator of a site that Big Gunns just joined???? Hold on while BG looks in the mirror to see if there is an impostor in his thong undies.(just wanted to give you all a mental picture):D

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Originally Posted by JAMills

Congrats on the Toffee Balls! Very exciting. Keep up posted with pictures fo the color change PLEASE!


Is Big Gunns who I think it is gracing BP.net with his presence?

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It appears so. You all have a new answer when you're asked "what was the greatest day of your life"?:D

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Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki

BG, you are and forever will be ... my hero. :bow:

-adam

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Big Gunns already knew that Adam, and you will always be his leeeetle buddy.:gj:

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WTF is going on? A "welcome"? From a moderator of a site that Big Gunns just joined???? Hold on while BG looks in the mirror to see if there is an impostor in his thong undies.(just wanted to give you all a mental picture):D

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LOL

You knew it was coming..

Plus, considering that fact, I am honored to have given you that little jolt, Oh mighty one..

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Originally Posted by LadyOhh

LOL

You knew it was coming..

Plus, considering that fact, I am honored to have given you that little jolt, Oh mighty one..

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HEEAAATTHHHERRR. The "Oh mighty one" didn't realize it was you.:rofl: You don't count. You've actually been lucky enough in life to meet The Man, The Myth, The Legend in his own mind. BG thought he had a welcome from a mod who didn't. This explains everything. Big Gunns thought he was slipping. Now he realizes he's not.:banana::banana: There has never EVER been a moderator that hasn't met Big Gunns in person that welcomed him after his first post.:P:D

Good to see you again BG! You can actually already see them changing in the new pictures Paul posted, very exciting.

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HEEAAATTHHHERRR. The "Oh mighty one" didn't realize it was you.:rofl: You don't count. You've actually been lucky enough in life to meet The Man, The Myth, The Legend in his own mind. BG thought he had a welcome from a mod who didn't. This explains everything. Big Gunns thought he was slipping. Now he realizes he's not.:banana::banana: There has never EVER been a moderator that hasn't met Big Gunns in person that welcomed him after his first post.:P:D

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Ed did (Freakie_frog). :P He wears a green cape too.

BTW - welcome Neil! :D

the eyes look darker than an albino that has me wondering,gotta see some pics as it grows.

The new pics show the "Ruby" eyes great. Definately not normal albino.
Big Congrats again!

Ive been keeping up with this but didnt want to join in since id only seen one or two pictures of a toffee ball.. I myself do not breed albinos but ive seen plenty. I bet if those babies were photographed on a clear white background with a daylight bulb it would be more obvious.

Initially they did appear to be albinos but the more i read of the postings, the more i went back to take a closer look at the 2 sets of pics that was posted. They are clearly not albinos. Its hard to tell from those pics but the white is definately more of creamy color than white. The markings are a bit different and like another user stated, the eyes are more of a dark ruby color than the red or pink of albinos.

I was glad to see the original breeder come on here to back up the claim. Congrats on the new babies!! :gj:

As for "BG" im feeling a bit lost.. Anyone care to share the secret?

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Ed did (Freakie_frog). :P He wears a green cape too.

BTW - welcome Neil! :D

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Well....if you consider "holy hell...Big Gunns" a welcome...... maybe BG was welcomed by another mod.:)

Thanks for the welcome Rabby.

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Ive been keeping up with this but didnt want to join in since id only seen one or two pictures of a toffee ball.. I myself do not breed albinos but ive seen plenty. I bet if those babies were photographed on a clear white background with a daylight bulb it would be more obvious.

Initially they did appear to be albinos but the more i read of the postings, the more i went back to take a closer look at the 2 sets of pics that was posted. They are clearly not albinos. Its hard to tell from those pics but the white is definately more of creamy color than white. The markings are a bit different and like another user stated, the eyes are more of a dark ruby color than the red or pink of albinos.

I was glad to see the original breeder come on here to back up the claim. Congrats on the new babies!! :gj:

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Big Gunns wil make one thing perfectly clear to everyone that The Man, The Myth, The Legend in his own mind is sure that most people are STILL not aware of.

Big Gunns produced the first hets from the Candy. Say it ain't so....yep....it be so.:banana::banana:

Big Gunns proved it to be genetic in 08 by producing the first Candy and Starburst(pastel Candy). The 08 animal Pete had in Daytona was produced by BG.

Last but not least. Big Gunns gave it such an awesome name. He named it after a few candy azzes he knows on from the forums.:D No...not really. Big Gunns named it that because they look like you can eat them....and Big Gunns has a sweet tooth.:D Baby Gunns would eat 4 packs of Starburst a day in his youth. Obviously it didn't hurt his perfect bod....or his ego.;):D:D:P

Now having said all this. It would seem that the "original breeder" is Big Gunns himself.....of the Candy anyway.

Is the Toffee the same as the Candy? HMMMMMMMM....now is it in BG's best interest to answer that?:P:D Big Gunns knows...and if you read between the lines....so do all of you.

Lost you are no more Draigness. Big Gunns was more than happy to straighten this whole mess out....even if it was in his own unique style.;):P:D

LOL Awesome :cool:

LMAO @ Big Gumms!:P

Does anyone know what Big Gunns is talking about?

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Well....if you consider "holy hell...Big Gunns" a welcome...... maybe BG was welcomed by another mod.:)

Thanks for the welcome Rabby.

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Knowing Ed as I do - yup, that was a welcome! ;)

this big gunnsd thing just confused me and through me off topic. Guess I'll come back once the topic makes sense and gets back on track?

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As for "BG" im feeling a bit lost.. Anyone care to share the secret?

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Well, lets say it should be interesting. At least for a little while until the mods get worn down and ban him just for violating the principles of good taste and modesty. Enjoy the ride while you can, BG is not known for his 'staying power'

Welcome Kneel, good to see you here.

:rolleye2::rolleye2::rolleye2::rolleye2::rolleye2:

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What's up skinny?

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Does anyone know what Big Gunns is talking about?

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this big gunnsd thing just confused me and through me off topic. Guess I'll come back once the topic makes sense and gets back on track?

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Well....like they say. You can lead a French Poodle to a bowl of rice crispies , but you can't make it eat them....even if you shove it's head in the bowl and show it how apparently.:rofl:

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Well, lets say it should be interesting. At least for a little while until the mods get worn down and ban him just for violating the principles of good taste and modesty. Enjoy the ride while you can, BG is not known for his 'staying power'

Welcome Kneel, good to see you here.

:rolleye2::rolleye2::rolleye2::rolleye2::rolleye2:

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Oh how wrong you are my leeetle Minion.:P Big Gunns is definitely known for his "staying power"...you just have to talk to the right woman.;):D:D

In all honesty though. BG is banned from nowhere he decided to grace with his obvious great presence.:D Now he WAS from one place, but that was all by design. If you ask the right leeetle Minion....Big Gunns can prove it.:D

"Modesty" is for those that don't have the Ball Pythons to say what they really wanna say. Big Gunns is the greatest.:banana::banana:

ps. Don't worry peeps. Big Gunns has been on a "top secret" mission the last few months. He does not have the time to be the REAL BIG GUNNS anymore. That "top secret" mission will be revealed soon enough. Let's just say everyone will be seeing(yes....actually seeing) a lot more of Big Gunns. Wasn't it obvious from the first time you saw Big Gunns that he was obviously put here(on earth) for bigger and better things?:salute:

Big Gunns is out....back to your regularly scheduled forum.:salute:

Darniit BG you can't go now! I haven't been able to flex my mind to read between your lines in months, I kind of enjoy reading your telling posts!

Oh great, big mouth is here.

Talking in circles and trying to sound like a big shot impresses no one with brains. Don't bother with answering me with a ton of bragging and double-talk, you can put up or shut up, and history shows you'll do neither. YOu'll go on and on with several long drawn out posts talking in third-person, bragging about your sexual prowess, insinuating that you've done great things with whatever morph people are talking about, and eventually when you get enough attention from the place you're annoying, you'll drop off the face of the earth.

If I can figure out how to put him on block, maybe the place will be bearable until he gets banned or leaves just before he gets banned. I see so far he's already posted with the name different, big gunnsd, and big gunns. I'll put both on ignore, see it that works.

Disgusted is,
w.

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Oh great, big mouth is here.

Talking in circles and trying to sound like a big shot impresses no one with brains. Don't bother with answering me with a ton of bragging and double-talk, you can put up or shut up, and history shows you'll do neither. YOu'll go on and on with several long drawn out posts talking in third-person, bragging about your sexual prowess, insinuating that you've done great things with whatever morph people are talking about, and eventually when you get enough attention from the place you're annoying, you'll drop off the face of the earth.

If I can figure out how to put him on block, maybe the place will be bearable until he gets banned or leaves just before he gets banned. I see so far he's already posted with the name different, big gunnsd, and big gunns. I'll put both on ignore, see it that works.

Disgusted is,
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Glad to see you Wolfy.:D

Big Gunns is curious what you would like him to "put up" before he "shuts up".:D


This post does show how well you don't really know Big Gunns though, since Big Gunns was THE FIRST TO PROVE OUT AND PRODUCE A CANDY BALL AND A PASTEL CANDY in 08(last year). He was the first owner of the Candy Ball...he named it....and he produced the first hets from it that he used to prove out the gene(didn't BG already say this?:)). Who really cares though? It's a snake. (BG is not "insinuating".... it's a fact....ask Pete Kahl. ).

Nobody knew this fact because Big Gunns didn't brag about it before it was even out of the egg like 99.9% of snake breeders.(This is not the only morph BG produced first) Wanting to be "first" is probably the reason why there was so much controversy about Paul's baby Toffees. He posted them to be just that....."first". He obviously should have waited until they "color up". Big Gunns is still not sure how he didn't realize the drama his post would cause with all the "forum experts" since they do look like normal albinos.


Last but not least, Big Gunns will say this to you Wolfy. If you ever have the pleasure (and it is) of meeting The Man, The Myth, The Legend in his own mind, you will completely understand Big Gunns. If you think BG is a liar....just ask someone who has had that pleasure.:D Hopefully some day you will also be lucky enough to have that same pleasure that so many have had.(that's not BG bragging about his "sexual prowess" either:P:D). There is nobody more fun to "hang out" with than Big Gunns.:banana::banana:

Peace and love to the world.

Wow, Theresa....tell us how you really feel! Don't hold back! :P

Seriously though, the confusion with the user-name has been straightened out and no one was trying to do anything underhanded with it.

Big Gunns....I don't believe we've had the pleasure. :colbert2: But you're certainly not unknown to me. I think I'm pretty safe in assuming things might get a bit more....colorful...around here in the future if you choose to stick around and become a regular part of the community. ;) Welcome aboard. (Now that the stunned shock of being welcomed by staff is wearing off... :P )

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Wow, Theresa....tell us how you really feel! Don't hold back! :P

Seriously though, the confusion with the user-name has been straightened out and no one was trying to do anything underhanded with it.

Big Gunns....I don't believe we've had the pleasure. :colbert2: But you're certainly not unknown to me. I think I'm pretty safe in assuming things might get a bit more....colorful...around here in the future if you choose to stick around and become a regular part of the community. ;) Welcome aboard. (Now that the stunned shock of being welcomed by staff is wearing off... :P )

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"stunned shock" is putting it mildly.:rofl:

Actually BG thinks too many people have now actually figured out just who he really is. You have no idea how many people knew Big Gunns from the forums and didn't know it was him at the shows. :rofl: It was more fun when they didn't know.:D


Thanks for the welcome:gj:


ps.(BG loves his ps:)) It's no surprise to BG that's he's "not unknown to you". After all...women love to gossip.:rofl::rofl:

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LOL. You're telling me...

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ps.(BG loves his ps:)) It's no surprise to BG that's he's "not unknown to you". After all...women love to gossip.:rofl::rofl:

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:rofl: I can safely say that Big Gunns is not a topic of choice on those rare occasions when gossip should cross my ear. :rofl: I just like to keep an eye on things is all...even if I don't have time to participate much elsewhere on the 'Net.

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Originally Posted by Big Gunns

"stunned shock" is putting it mildly.

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Hehe...let's just say we enjoy our colorful members...so long as they behave themselves within the boundaries set by our TOS. :P

I love the internet!! I can find out who anybody is!!! Shall I post BG's name so everybody that is lost knows it??

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Originally Posted by twistedtails

I love the internet!! I can find out who anybody is!!! Shall I post BG's name so everybody that is lost knows it??

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Is it a secret??? :weirdface

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Originally Posted by JLC

:rofl: I can safely say that Big Gunns is not a topic of choice on those rare occasions when gossip should cross my ear. :rofl: I just like to keep an eye on things is all...even if I don't have time to participate much elsewhere on the 'Net.




Hehe...let's just say we enjoy our colorful members...so long as they behave themselves within the boundaries set by our TOS. :P

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Come on JLC...you can admit it. BG knows women spend at least 2 hours a day talking about him....wait....no....the study said it was 2 hours a night dreaming of him. Sorry....BG's mistake.:rofl::rofl:


BG will say this also. Technically Wolfy broke those "boundaries set by the tos"(she did attack BG:tears::tears:). That's OK though....she has plenty of time to fall in love with Big Gunns(and she will).:D

Big Gunns has to go now and deliver a snake cage.

Have a great day everyone.:gj::gj:

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Is it a secret??? :weirdface

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To me it seemed as if it was. I had just as hard of a time reading his posts as I do some of the kids who post on here. I don't believe he formally introduced himself either. I just heard of the candy recently and no clue until I searched as to who this "Legend" in his OWN mind was. I don't care who or what somebody is! Does is really warrant acting a fool?