Cool Side Hide????

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Originally Posted by Hock3ymonk3y

If you keep your animals at top notch level, then you will make their home as secure and safe as possible. Thats means having two hides that are not half logs. Having a thermostat and at least one thermometer per cage. I am not leaving this thread and will not return. I really hope for the sake of your snakes that you take my, and everyone else's advice. We are all trying to help. Goodbye.

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Typo :/ I AM leaving this tread and will not return. Now Good day!

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Originally Posted by justind

STEW, you say that your BP lies spread out while inside the log hide, thats probably because they like to feel the walls of their hide, it makes them feel more secure.

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looks like a cinnamon bun.....head sittin on top in middle....he is chillen yo

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Originally Posted by Kaorte

From my experience, and from many others, yes it does intrude on the snakes well being.

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explain this, is it cuz they can see out the back...... he is always lookin to the front, he dont care

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Originally Posted by STEW

looks like a cinnamon bun.....head sittin on top in middle....he is chillen yo




explain this, is it cuz they can see out the back...... he is always lookin to the front, he dont care

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The fact that he was even in that tree "chilling" is proof of that.

Ball pythons spend 90% of their time in their hides (when they are content). They shouldn't just randomly be sitting in a tree, exposed. They are most content when they are completely hidden.

Just try it out. I am trying to help your setup. I bet that within a week of having the new hides, you will never see the snake sitting in the tree again (which is a good thing!).

I wouldn't suggest it if I didn't think it worked. I think it benefits the snake and I think you should change your hides. :)

Here he is relaxin in the log......

He does spend 90%, maybe more, in his hide. He is only occansionally in the tree. I thought I said that, maybe not

http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/r...iseight/26.jpg

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Originally Posted by STEW

I just thought is was a good picture op as BP's normally stay out of trees.....

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There's a reason for that.

The pictures don't show "top notch". Since there has been only one feeding, it sounds like you haven't had this BP for long. With time, it may eventually show signs of stress from being too exposed. Their need for total seclusion outweighs our desire for them to be visible.

Okay, usually I don't interject myself into these kinds of threads because I don't like to argue with anyone. And I still hope that none of my comments are taken the wrong way, however, from the original pictures your tank definitely looks too open and exposed. I don't think there's any problem with you having a tree in there, but you really should have some hides that are more secure. And especially from the last pic you just posted, that hide does not look adequate at all. It, in my opinion, doesn't even really pass as a hide. It's way too high and open. From the picture, it looks like nothing more than a narrow piece of wood and doesn't afford much, if any, security. And if that's the only "hide" you have in the tank, the only reason he stays under there (or in the tree) is because there's nothing else. Again, I am not trying to offend or attack you and it seems like you care about your snakes, so, for the good of your ball python, I would highly recommend getting 2 secure, cave-like hides. Like Kaorte said, you can just buy some dark plastic bowls and put holes in them.

I think it's great that your snake ate and I hope he continues to do so. Obviously the husbandry of your snake is your business, but since you posted on this forum we are just trying to help you. I can guarantee your ball will be much happier if you get 2 secure hides and try filling in the rest of your tank with more fake plants, branches etc. Good luck and remember we are just trying to help you provide a better environment for your snake :)

this is frustrating.....

Hi,

I understand your frustration but please do not use that word as a derogatory term.


dr del

Why is everyone so ready to throw out their opinions and cram their advice down everyones throats when clearly in the original post nothing was asked for. I have noticed this in a few threads and seems like a trend... :mad:

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Originally Posted by Vypyrz

Why is everyone so ready to throw out their opinions and cram their advice down everyones throats when clearly in the original post nothing was asked for. I have noticed this in a few threads and seems like a trend... :mad:

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This site tends to put the animals first and not the needs of the keepers to have a pretty display tank. When the members see things that are off, they will more than likely going to say something about it. Some folks are receptive to the advice and some aren't. I have seen some decent advice given here and it's just not being received well so people tend to get defensive.