Big Daddy Ballroom?

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Originally Posted by Wh00h0069

He told me that he has never had IBD, and there was no proof. He said that if someone could prove that he sold a snake with IBD that he would make the situation right. From what he said, and I have heard many other say, vets will diagnose a snake with IBD anytime it has a neurological problem. I have even heard of vets diagnosing spider balls with IBD because they don't know what else it could be.

I don't know whether the snake had IBD or not, but if his collection had IBD, then all of his ball pythons would have been dead within weeks. But this is years later, and he still has his collection, which to me proves that it could not have been IBD.

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Well then why does a vet say otherwise? Allen has said at first he never sold said snake to this person then later backs down and runs.He is point blank scum,read the proof for yourself.

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/foru...hlight=warning

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Originally Posted by Wh00h0069

Another thing, Allen told me that he invited a few of the people to visit his facility that was making these accusations against him. He said that he even offered to pay for their trips. They all refused.

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Wow once again another Allen lie :mad:.I took him up on his offer and at the end he backed out not me!!! I was going to go to his place and inspect it and come back and write on what i saw.Well since i wanted to bring someone else with me he changed his mind.I am not stupid to go there without someone else incase he got ignorant or something,but he wanted his local dog pound guy to be there :rolleyes:.Allen is a lier from the get go!!

Aww Allen is here lets here more lies :rolleyes:

What good is it to have people come down for a visit when you know they are be going there? Does child services tell a mother suspected of negligence when they plan to drop by? No they don't. Why would they want to give her the opportunity to clean up the house and look presentable? Same applies here. Allen would probably tell the person to come on a Monday so he has the weekend to clean up the disgusting, deplorable conditions that existed when Bryon took those photos.

Here is the proof that i was going to Allens but he backed out.Wow once again proof that he is a lier. http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/s...ythons&page=13

Why is it every couple months we have to prove to people about why to avoid Allen Belcher :confused: :weirdface? My god AVOID ALLEN BELCHER IBD IS WHY

Well Allen was here but i guess he does not want to share his thoughts with us :rolleyes:

Joe,

Dude..Give it a rest for a little while. The constant rambling posts will have you looking like a kook and people will ignore the important message here.

What he is asking is have any of you who are so openly arrogant about me being such a bad person with IBD snakes ever bought from me!
I will answer the question for you since it is being avoided. The answer is NO see people like to take an (opinion) which we all know what those are like and run with it. Try to follow this example: Because Jill's boyfriends, sister's, best friends, dad's, girlfriends, brother's, Bosses, ex-wives, sisters, boyfriend- said that he heard I did Bubba wrong or had something that didn't look right, then I must be scum. What is funny is that when you talk straight to bubba about the situation the story is not as you heard it. I have had 1 person who claims he bought a snake from me many years ago that had IBD. After talking to the vet and the kid on several ocassions, It was discovered that I did not even sell him the snake, just as I claimed the entire time. Joe my friend who it still hard for me. If I had IBD in my collection it would not be the government who we would be worried about shutting our industry down. With the number of snakes that I produce and sell ever year from my facilities. I would be what was feared. As I have said many times before, I have done my research and homework about the disease. I even went to Gainsville to The University of Florida where the disease was discovered and talked with Pete himself. Pythons can not live with the disease or be carriers of the disease. If I had IBD I would have been out of business along time ago, along with a large mass of the reptile community. Stop bustin' my balls over something that is bullcrap. We are 1/3 through this month and I have already shipped out over 80 snakes this month, I also sold/traded over 130 snake at the Hamburg show. I have a guy flying in and picking up over 40 more this weekend. On top of all this I have over 100 eggs hatching this week alone. Bottomline is that I could not continue to have successful breeding seasons with unhealthy, not cared for or diseased snakes. Anyone who has bred snakes can testify to that. You have to be doing everything right and still have either good luck or God on your side to pull it off. ;)
Allen Belcher 706-615-4772

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Originally Posted by Big Daddy

What he is asking is have any of you who are so openly arrogant about me being such a bad person with IBD snakes ever bought from me!
I will answer the question for you since it is being avoided. The answer is NO see people like to take an (opinion) which we all know what those are like and run with it. Try to follow this example: Because Jill's boyfriends, sister's, best friends, dad's, girlfriends, brother's, Bosses, ex-wives, sisters, boyfriend- said that he heard I did Bubba wrong or had something that didn't look right, then I must be scum. What is funny is that when you talk straight to bubba about the situation the story is not as you heard it. I have had 1 person who claims he bought a snake from me many years ago that had IBD. After talking to the vet and the kid on several ocassions, It was discovered that I did not even sell him the snake, just as I claimed the entire time. Joe my friend who it still hard for me. If I had IBD in my collection it would not be the government who we would be worried about shutting our industry down. With the number of snakes that I produce and sell ever year from my facilities. I would be what was feared. As I have said many times before, I have done my research and homework about the disease. I even went to Gainsville to The University of Florida where the disease was discovered and talked with Pete himself. Pythons can not live with the disease or be carriers of the disease. If I had IBD I would have been out of business along time ago, along with a large mass of the reptile community. Stop bustin' my balls over something that is bullcrap. We are 1/3 through this month and I have already shipped out over 80 snakes this month, I also sold/traded over 130 snake at the Hamburg show. I have a guy flying in and picking up over 40 more this weekend. On top of all this I have over 100 eggs hatching this week alone. Bottomline is that I could not continue to have successful breeding seasons with unhealthy, not cared for or diseased snakes. Anyone who has bred snakes can testify to that. You have to be doing everything right and still have either good luck or God on your side to pull it off. ;)
Allen Belcher 706-615-4772

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Another BS post from the king of BS. Belcher, I for one don't believe a word that you say. Not about IBD, not about your sales, not about your breeding. Isn't it about time you get out of this business and find something that suits you better? How about becoming a pig farmer? You already have half of the job title in place.