Could BPs survive in FL?

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Originally Posted by DutchHerp

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I don't have any papers... I stated that already - happy?

At least I'm not using biased and unscientific papers, right?!

Later, Matt

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As long as your happy making your decisions like that so be it..

I guess no information is better than info from a person that doesn't meet your standards of what you require to change your mind.

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Originally Posted by DutchHerp

*takes deep breath, shakes head, and starts typing*

I don't have any papers... I stated that already - happy?

At least I'm not using biased and unscientific papers, right?!

Later, Matt

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No you're not. You're not using any research papers apparently. Just checkin.

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Originally Posted by waltah!

No you're not. You're not using any research papers apparently. Just checkin.

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:weirdface

I know, I'm pretty sure I just said that.

I know the Barkers have done a lot for herpetoculture, and I respect them for that. In fact, my cheynei comes from their line and I'm proud of that.

It's just so painfully obvious that they fight against the ban because they're afraid of not being able to breed their pythons and boas anymore.

Then they start rightfully, but misleadingly, using "graduate biologists" in their intro to their unscientific paper. People start citing this paper as science and use it as a sole source to prove their point.

Later, Matt

Well, I cited it because I agree with them, not because I think it is scientific. The facts they present lead me to agree with what they have written.

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Originally Posted by DutchHerp

:weirdface

I know, I'm pretty sure I just said that.

I know the Barkers have done a lot for herpetoculture, and I respect them for that. In fact, my cheynei comes from their line and I'm proud of that.

It's just so painfully obvious that they fight against the ban because they're afraid of not being able to breed their pythons and boas anymore.

Then they start rightfully, but misleadingly, using "graduate biologists" in their intro to their unscientific paper. People start citing this paper as science and use it as a sole source to prove their point.

Later, Matt

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I understand where you are coming from, I really do. The issue is that you critique others for citing this paper as their sole source while not having a single (sole) source for your opinions. This could go round and round all day long, so I guess we can just accept the fact that we won't agree on this and move on.

hows this for facts
bp are not swamp animals
they do not take cold temps at all
they dont take alot of humidity
they dont take too much heat

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Originally Posted by nixer

hows this for facts
bp are not swamp animals
they do not take cold temps at all
they dont take alot of humidity
they dont take too much heat

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Lol high five!

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Originally Posted by nixer

bp are not swamp animals

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Not all of Florida is swamp.

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they do not take cold temps at all

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According to some burm breeders, Burms don't take temperatures under 75* (in captivity), and I'm sure balls can deal with that.

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they dont take alot of humidity

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I doubt this will keep them from reproducing.

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they dont take too much heat

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Meh, there's plenty of cool places.

Later, Matt

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Originally Posted by DutchHerp

Not all of Florida is swamp.



According to some burm breeders, Burms don't take temperatures under 75* (in captivity), and I'm sure balls can deal with that.



I doubt this will keep them from reproducing.



Meh, there's plenty of cool places.

Later, Matt

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1i didnt say all of florida was swamp!
2 burms will go into the water and sit in mud where im sure it will not be too cold, bp cannot do that for extended periods of time at all.

as for your supposed expert i highly doubt he has any first hand knowledge with any python species nor does he have the experience with each species to even give any input that would be remotely close to correct other than spewing something he read from some other book.

this would lead him to lack any knowledge on the habits of individual species or their requirements and even at that the supposed "scientific" study based on a guess on possible climate change is no basis for anything.

oh yes then you have extereme temps which can be over 100 and less than 50 for prolonged periods. ive had bps that got ri from jsut a little bit too much humidity and i also got it from my heattape going out for a day

but what do i know im no biologist im just a guy with real world observations of actual facts!

the earth a little to far from the sun we would freeze a little to close to the sun we would burn..... ball pythons a little to hot not good a little to cold blah blah i think these creatures would survive given the appropiate climates maybe florida does have them, you would just have to find the location ,but to say its not possible that would be ignorant ...:rolleye2: