Help me ID my Het BELs

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Originally Posted by JLC

I'm far from an expert....and I have my own opinion about the whole lesser/butter issue. But since you want to know why folks guessed as they did, I'll tell you my thoughts.

1. First picture I immediately thought "mojo" because of the somewhat "floaty" affect on the pattern, and the brown coloring that lacks any yellow. When I saw the second picture, I thought "HOT mojo!" :D Beautiful flames and blushing...but still looks like a mojo to me. The hints of yellow I see in the second picture aren't in the right place of the pattern to be a lesser.

2. I thought "lesser" right away when I saw the first picture. Beautiful faded blushing all along the back pattern and nice shadings of yellow in the alien heads. And what spots he has are light in color, rather than dark. To me, a butter shows a lot more yellow in the pattern and tend to be brighter than lessers....but I'm still not convinced they're actually two separate morphs, but rather, two variants of the same morph...just like normals can be light or dark or high yellow, but they're all still normals. That's just my inexperienced opinion, though.

3. Seems like most everyone agrees this one is mojo. Not a doubt in my mind when I saw the picture. Floaty pattern, rich brown colors, lots of light coloration/flames on the sides. Not quite as hot as #1...but definitely a beauty!

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id agree.... either way.... i think ur on the right track to some white snakes :gj:

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Originally Posted by Corvid

Thank you EVERYONE for your input. But I'm still confused and don't know what I should sell their offspring (when/if they come in 2010) as....

I bought #1 from Craig'slist as a Mojo. I won't post her price because everyone will hate me.

I got #2 from an expo as a Lesser. Again, I got a STEAL on this snake. I don't look for cheap snakes, I look for good snakes, the price is just a very nice bonus. He will be bred to both #1 and #3, I am interested to see the difference in the BELs when/if they come.

I got #3 as a mojo (SHOCK!) ;)

I want to be a good, honest, high quality breeder. So when I go to sell BELs from #1x#2 I don't know what I should mark them as. Should I try to sell them as lesserxlesser, butterxlesser or mojoxlesser?

What would YOU do if these were your snakes?
By no means do I want to lie to or mislead my buyer.

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I think majority of the people agree that the first one is a Mojo and the second two are Lesser and Mojo. Lesser and Butter are really up to you, but if you bought it as a Lesser from an expo I think you'd be safe.

I would say the first one is a Mojave and leave it at that. If anyone questions, you can explain the unknown origin of the animal but it clearly proved out!

If all else fails, look at the babies from the clutches, usually morphs seem more prime in their hatchling phase.

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Originally Posted by Corvid

Thank you EVERYONE for your input. But I'm still confused and don't know what I should sell their offspring (when/if they come in 2010) as....

I bought #1 from Craig'slist as a Mojo. I won't post her price because everyone will hate me.

I got #2 from an expo as a Lesser. Again, I got a STEAL on this snake. I don't look for cheap snakes, I look for good snakes, the price is just a very nice bonus. He will be bred to both #1 and #3, I am interested to see the difference in the BELs when/if they come.

I got #3 as a mojo (SHOCK!) ;)

I want to be a good, honest, high quality breeder. So when I go to sell BELs from #1x#2 I don't know what I should mark them as. Should I try to sell them as lesserxlesser, butterxlesser or mojoxlesser?

What would YOU do if these were your snakes?
By no means do I want to lie to or mislead my buyer.

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If the odds work out correctly when you breed 1 and 2, you should see some mojos, lessers and bels. if you don't get mojo's the first breeding, it won't mean 1 isn't a mojo though, you'd need to breed a few times to come to that conclusion.

However, to me - #1 is clearly a mojo - that's why my guesses were mojo, lesser, mojo. :)

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Originally Posted by Corvid

Thank you EVERYONE for your input. But I'm still confused and don't know what I should sell their offspring (when/if they come in 2010) as....

I bought #1 from Craig'slist as a Mojo. I won't post her price because everyone will hate me.

I got #2 from an expo as a Lesser. Again, I got a STEAL on this snake. I don't look for cheap snakes, I look for good snakes, the price is just a very nice bonus. He will be bred to both #1 and #3, I am interested to see the difference in the BELs when/if they come.

I got #3 as a mojo (SHOCK!) ;)

I want to be a good, honest, high quality breeder. So when I go to sell BELs from #1x#2 I don't know what I should mark them as. Should I try to sell them as lesserxlesser, butterxlesser or mojoxlesser?

What would YOU do if these were your snakes?
By no means do I want to lie to or mislead my buyer.

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I would mark any BEL's as mojo x lesser. #1 looks like a textbook A grade mojo. The offspring should be stunning. Congrats on nice pickups.