not quite your normal tat question

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Originally Posted by V1L3 DiaL3cT

Just remember Mr. Rogers was covered in ink... most people didn't know that's why he wore the long shirts. :)

Hope this helps.

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Hate to burst your bubble bu he had no tats. And he was never a sniper in the army. It was some stupid urban myth thing some people made up and it spread all over the place on the internet.

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Originally Posted by sg1trogdor

ANd what kind of business are you referring to? I work around multimillionaires on a daily basis and never once has my company lost a client because of mine or my partners tattoos. Hes got full sleeves and legs. I have on many occassions been asked by out "clients" to show them my tattoos, and have also been complimented on them numerous times. And if you are talking about a office type situations what difference does it make since you should be wearing a suit where your arms are covered anyways. I just can't think of a business situations where it would matter. Now keep in mind I am referring to your standard forearm tats. Legs should be covered anyways in a business environment. I often find myself wondering where people get this strange notion that people with tattoos are low class scum. Hey tattoos have been around for thousands of years so get used to it. You should spend your time admiring them not crucifying those who choose to get them.

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I'll tell you the same thing I told the other guy. Please read my post before berating me with inane comments.

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Originally Posted by Soterios

I'll tell you the same thing I told the other guy. Please read my post before berating me with inane comments.

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Im not trying to argue both of my posts clearly have stated a question. Maybe you should take your own advice and read my posts before berating me. OR are you just another one of those thick headed hypocrites who like to push ideas, and beliefs but when it comes to themselves are perfect in every way and could do no wrong. That's the way you are trying to come off. I really love how you say one thing then 2 posts later you try to change the story because a few people are bothered by your original post. If you personally did not feel a certain way about an issue why would you so blatantly post a reply like you did. This can be over rather quickly all you have to do is answer my 2 simple questions and I will be done.

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Originally Posted by sg1trogdor

Im not trying to argue both of my posts clearly have stated a question. Maybe you should take your own advice and read my posts before berating me. OR are you just another one of those thick headed hypocrites who like to push ideas, and beliefs but when it comes to themselves are perfect in every way and could do no wrong. That's the way you are trying to come off. I really love how you say one thing then 2 posts later you try to change the story because a few people are bothered by your original post. If you personally did not feel a certain way about an issue why would you so blatantly post a reply like you did. This can be over rather quickly all you have to do is answer my 2 simple questions and I will be done.

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You sir must be quite dense. I'll even repost my post for you so you can read it.

The answer to your first question was in two of my posts. So again, take the time to read. Why throw them to the bottom of the pile? See the bold below.

I like your second question, assuming it's asking about with type of job, because it means you skimmed my post, but didn't actually read it. Why type of job if rather irrelevant. I my case, I would be referring to specific retail sales. Feel free to insert most jobs on the market that involve customer interaction, all the way down to make grocery stores.

Last but not least, Mr. Super Slueth. Show me where my story changed in this thread. Show me where I'm a hypocrite. Please.

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Originally Posted by Soterios

You need to calm down, stop taking things so personally, and read.

Clearly you've never been in any sort of management situation where you control employment. If you had, you wouldn't even be discussing this. If your customers are uncomfortable, they won't spend money. If they don't spend money, you go out of business. I would venture to say that in a professional atmosphere, the vast majority would rather deal with a clean cut person.

Since I'm apparently, "One of those people", I'll let you in on a secret. I have piercings, and have a session for a tattoo set up for next month. NO WAY! The difference is mine are/will be discrete.

Once again, if I'm doing to hire someone to deal with customers, I'm going to hire the person who will best relate to ALL of them.

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i have a tattoo that isn't visable in normal clothes because i also had this question in my head. you could get it on the wrist you wear a watch so it would help cover it on interview days.

This is all a lot to think about, and very helpful too. Lots of view points to consider. Thank you all!

BUT, now that we've debated appearance in an interview, let's remember that I'm going to be a band director, waving my arms in front of jr. high or high school kids. Two very different situations, attitudes, feelings, obviously. And I'd also like to note that most kids involved in a music program are not your average high school kids. Just keep that in mind as well.

Thanks to Jen to pointing out conservative vs. liberal areas, which is something I'm also thinking about.

So what about the student/ parent of a student view? I don't want to hear YOUR opinions, but what you actually think the reaction some parents might have.

Discuss, discuss.

It could always be covered by a watch also.

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Originally Posted by Christina

This is all a lot to think about, and very helpful too. Lots of view points to consider. Thank you all!

BUT, now that we've debated appearance in an interview, let's remember that I'm going to be a band director, waving my arms in front of jr. high or high school kids. Two very different situations, attitudes, feelings, obviously. And I'd also like to note that most kids involved in a music program are not your average high school kids. Just keep that in mind as well.

Thanks to Jen to pointing out conservative vs. liberal areas, which is something I'm also thinking about.

So what about the student/ parent of a student view? I don't want to hear YOUR opinions, but what you actually think the reaction some parents might have.

Discuss, discuss.

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You're always going to run into some parents that will freak when they hear their child's music teacher has a tat. If they really were that offended, they could pull the kid from the program. Thankfully, most normal people aren't like that. I think most parents would see it as a dedication to what you're teaching. After all, the word "music" isn't like a full body tattoo of guns or something haha.

Being a former band geek myself, it would be cool to see a normal conductor for a change. Mine was super mean and didn't believe in fun. That's not a good learning environment; having an open-minded teacher is.

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Originally Posted by Soterios

I would throw you to the bottom of the pile.

It really just depends of how professional of a job you're looking for.

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Originally Posted by Soterios

You need to calm down, stop taking things so personally, and read.

Clearly you've never been in any sort of management situation where you control employment. If you had, you wouldn't even be discussing this. If your customers are uncomfortable, they won't spend money. If they don't spend money, you go out of business. I would venture to say that in a professional atmosphere, the vast majority would rather deal with a clean cut person.

Since I'm apparently, "One of those people", I'll let you in on a secret. I have piercings, and have a session for a tattoo set up for next month. NO WAY! The difference is mine are/will be discrete.

Once again, if I'm doing to hire someone to deal with customers, I'm going to hire the person who will best relate to ALL of them.

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There you go just like in my post in your original post you say one thing then several posts later you say another. What a damn conformist. So if you had a company of your own and supposedly are egtting tattoos why would you have such a big chip on your shoulder against them? And as for supposedly answering my questions show me proof that a tattoo would cost you customers. If yo;u would read my posts you would see that it has not affected me in any way and I have throughout my career delt with hundred if not thousands of millionaires. Show me some proof buddy. If you can't show me proof your not worth my time. I want to see studies done showing that a consumer would not shop at a retail store as you soo nicely put it because a freaking cashier or any other employee had a freaking tattoo. Close minded people such as yourself make me sick to my stomach. Yeah yeah yeah mr "I'm getting a tattoo" If you were/are then your would be on the other end of this argument.

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Originally Posted by sg1trogdor

There you go just like in my post in your original post you say one thing then several posts later you say another. What a damn conformist. So if you had a company of your own and supposedly are egtting tattoos why would you have such a big chip on your shoulder against them? And as for supposedly answering my questions show me proof that a tattoo would cost you customers. If yo;u would read my posts you would see that it has not affected me in any way and I have throughout my career delt with hundred if not thousands of millionaires. Show me some proof buddy. If you can't show me proof your not worth my time. I want to see studies done showing that a consumer would not shop at a retail store as you soo nicely put it because a freaking cashier or any other employee had a freaking tattoo. Close minded people such as yourself make me sick to my stomach. Yeah yeah yeah mr "I'm getting a tattoo" If you were/are then your would be on the other end of this argument.

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I gave up when he told me I've probably never been in a management postition. :rofl:

I manage the business I'm at now and also managed a multi-million dollar hydraulic/pneumatic actuator plant. Oh and I'm tattooed from the neck down to my toes!