My kijiji Purchase (from general)

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Originally Posted by spalding11

some people were harsh on this one....if you're not breeding/selling it, i say call it what ever makes you happy:rolleyes::D:D:D:D

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really?? because part of the reason we are here is to educate people new to the hobby. for that reason alone you cant run around calling a snake a pastel if its not. and, no disrespect intended, but the OP confirmed that they were going to breed this animal. what if the majority of a clutch of normals was sold as "low grade pastels"?

doing something because it "makes you happy" does not make it right or responsible.

OP, you have a beautiful snake, btw.

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Originally Posted by sum182

I thought he looked like an enchi to! but i doubt it lol. Thanks for everyones input. I wont know until i breed him next year (if he feels like it)

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I was meaning that my female looks more like an Enchi, being banded and green-eyed. Not that yours looks like an Enchi, which is definitely does not.

He's a nice normal, wild-type Ball Python. Nothing more. You're only going to make more normals with him, which isn't bad, but it is what it is.

As of now im saying its probably a normal. If his babies look like him, i'll know hes a normal. Because from what i know even is a pastel is low grade, it doesnt mean his/her babies will be. correct me if i'm wrong on that.

also, i dont think anyone was being harsh or wanted to come off as being harsh. i understand people ALWAYS post things asking if they're snake is a morph and can understand if its frustrating. Its cool, i like this community and dont think anyone is here to hurt other people. so again, THANKS for all the input

Def not a pastel nice clean normal though.

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Originally Posted by sum182

I thought he looked like an enchi to! but i doubt it lol. Thanks for everyones input. I wont know until i breed him next year (if he feels like it)

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Sorry buy it's a normal. Why even bother breeding it? Cut your loses and buy a breeding size pastel male for a few hundred...

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Originally Posted by sum182

haha, yeah, we'll see. I think i may get some good normals out of him and i have nothing else to breed to my 2nd female next year (unless i wanna pick up another male) but its gonna be my first year attempting so i wanna start slow. Thanks bruce

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You should breed him to a nice pastel female his nice clean pattern may lend something nice to the mix for some wicked pastels.

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Originally Posted by Vibrant Balls

Sorry buy it's a normal. Why even bother breeding it? Cut your loses and buy a breeding size pastel male for a few hundred...

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Because shockingly there are people out there that would love to buy normal ball pythons!! Maybe not in this hobby that focuses on selling to breeders by breeders, but the pet industry that Petco and Petsmart cater to DO want normals, because that's all they know, and for them, it truly is a PET.

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Originally Posted by littleindiangirl

Because shockingly there are people out there that would love to buy normal ball pythons!! Maybe not in this hobby that focuses on selling to breeders by breeders, but the pet industry that Petco and Petsmart cater to DO want normals, because that's all they know, and for them, it truly is a PET.

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good call connie. Let him breed if he wants. It's the only way to tell if it is a morph. Besides he's gotta start somewhere. Might as well do it on a normal, and move up from there.

yeah, thats what i was thinking stratus. i'm starting with a normals and pastels, only (hopefully) 2 clutches next year. 2 easy starts. Then that year (if everything goes well) i'll move to a spider and maybe try some bees. thanks for the support. idk about sellin them to petsmart or co...but maybe to some friends or something, i just need to start to see if im getting myself in to deep.