Kinky the mojave

I understand what you're saying but regardless....an imperfect animal to a perfect animal CAN produce messed up babies. Who's to say it will show up in the first generation of babies? Say the first year you get perfect babies but then those babies breed and produce kinked babies...there's no way you could provide refunds for as many mojaves as you plan to produce with this one kinked animal. And of course someone who is trying to sell a kinked animal would say they'd be surprised its genetic...they're trying to get rid of it! If he said oh I think it may be genetic would you have bought it? I think not. It's called morals and integrity...a messed up animal should not breed...simple as that. It's obvious people have become even more consumed with money than the health of their snakes...

Good luck!

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Originally Posted by Big.Balls

Hello Slim ,

Yes the breeder said he would be amazed if it was genetic and that is why he has offered a refund if it turns out to be . He has also got eggs from him , i feel the breeder is more than sure it is not genetic as if it was i don't see why he would sell me a BP , then have to give me a refund later on down the line and then have to deal with kinked babies that he would of produced .

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Well, the refund was a great offer from the breeder, but if you produce kinked offspring, that refund won't help those little kinked BPs.

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Originally Posted by whitesnake12

Does it matter if its kinked or not its a great looking snakes, and if it does everything fine like any normal snake,nothing should be wrong in it. Its by judgeing a book its cover, What if a person had an enlarged bump on his body,would you outcast him,just because he is diffrent? If he is to be treated right and kept in a normal human life why can't the snake be in a normal captive life.

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Comparing a kinked BP to a person with a bump on their body is apples and oranges.

No one is telling him to stick this BP in a dark closet somewhere. He is just being urged not to breed it. Breeding defective animals is a bad idea no matter what your ethical veiw of it is.

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Originally Posted by snake-zone.dk

I don't get why you wants this snake...

The breding season is over and you can get a 08 or 09 Animal for at good price and get it readey for next season and you got a good helthey animal..

What you are doing is just not right... deformed animals shluld not be used to bred...

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So breeding a 'deformed' animal which was caused by incubation temps and no indication of it being genetic is in your words 'is just not right' ? , If the babies are all healthy and fine i see no problem in it as long as it does not harm the animal .

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Originally Posted by Monty

i say don't dont put the guy down till something happens and if it does prove to have been an incubation thing then congrats to him for having the nicest mojaves ive ever seen

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Cheers Monty .

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Originally Posted by Vibrant Balls

First of all, Stunning looking Mojo... For a PET. I would never breed a kinked or imperfect animal that could possibly be genetic...

Second of all, WHY would you buy 6 females to breed that Mojo with?? What happens if all those clutches turn out to be kinked??? Sure he said he'd refund you for the Mojo, but not for waisted time and effort with your 6 kinked clutches...

I think you'd be better off to rethink your "breeding plan". The one you have now is a recipe for disaster.

Get an 08 Butter or Lesser male instead. They are far superior to a Mojo with better Lucys. Spend a few hundred extra now for a far better breeding plan...

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I did not buy 6 females to breed the mojave with , I'm not sure where you got that from ? . I have a spider and a pastel that will also be used to breed . The mojo will go to 1-2 females and thats it .

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Originally Posted by Luke Martin

I understand what you're saying but regardless....an imperfect animal to a perfect animal CAN produce messed up babies. Who's to say it will show up in the first generation of babies? Say the first year you get perfect babies but then those babies breed and produce kinked babies...there's no way you could provide refunds for as many mojaves as you plan to produce with this one kinked animal. And of course someone who is trying to sell a kinked animal would say they'd be surprised its genetic...they're trying to get rid of it! If he said oh I think it may be genetic would you have bought it? I think not. It's called morals and integrity...a messed up animal should not breed...simple as that. It's obvious people have become even more consumed with money than the health of their snakes...

Good luck!

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I get what your saying but why would the breeder use him to breed himself if he thought it would be genetic ? , it just would not make sense . He would be stuck with a load of kinked babies , then me wanting a refund , he would get no gain from it at all .

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Originally Posted by Slim

Well, the refund was a great offer from the breeder, but if you produce kinked offspring, that refund won't help those little kinked BPs. .

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Fair enough mate . If there was kinked babies and to be honest i dont think there will be and nor does the breeder , then i would keep them and do what was needed .

Thanks for all the comments ,

Bb