living together?

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Originally Posted by Colin Vestrand

your point holds no water here, in my opinion, because it has been proven that when you aren't disrupting snakes by shifting them around during breeding season, they often breed readily with little cycling. thus, housing them together year round means they may be more willing to breed, if not just as willing as if they're housed separately.

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Breeding snakes every year is extremely unhealthy and a great way to shorten the life span of a breeder. But okay, you CLEARLY know everything.

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Originally Posted by Whiffa

who are you to tell me I DON'T know anything

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TRUST me, Colin KNOWS his stuff REALLY well. How else would he be able to produce those super hot carpets?

Don't get your panties in a wad because someone doesn't back you up. Word yourself appropriately, present your argument/opinion and debate. Do not call someone out over something so silly. Post matter here, you have 18 and most are incoherent. Colin has my helpful post with a lot of information to support them.

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Originally Posted by DavidG

Don't get your panties in a wad because someone doesn't back you up. Word yourself appropriately, present your argument/opinion and debate. Do not call someone out over something so silly. Post matter here, you have 18 and most are incoherent. Colin has my helpful post with a lot of information to support them.

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And don't attempt to call ME out and say I have my "panties in a wad"

Unless you're going to actually contribute facts to the thread, pipe down. ;)

OH - I also want to throw out the fact that many snake diseases, infections, and parasites are VERY easy to pass on to each other. Housing them together is a fantastic way for snakes who possibly have IBD to pass it on. And mites. And respiratory infections. :)

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Originally Posted by Whiffa

OH - I also want to throw out the fact that many snake diseases, infections, and parasites are VERY easy to pass on to each other. Housing them together is a fantastic way for snakes who possibly have IBD to pass it on. And mites. And respiratory infections. :)

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It's called quarantine. Snakes do not 'just get' parasite out of the blue. They have to be introduced by another specimen or kept in poor conditions.

With proper husbandry...there should be no worries of RI.




Whiffa....if you have shotty husbandry techniques...I can see where you are coming from. But under the correct settings....there are no problems. You just have to know what you are doing. ;)

To Jerhart, how big a cage do you keep your pairs or trios in?

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Originally Posted by Jerhart

It's called quarantine. Snakes do not 'just get' parasite out of the blue. They have to be introduced by another specimen or kept in poor conditions.

With proper husbandry...there should be no worries of RI.




Whiffa....if you have shotty husbandry techniques...I can see where you are coming from. But under the correct settings....there are no problems. You just have to know what you are doing. ;)

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I agree. But not everyone knows to pre-treat any bedding, hides, leaves, etc that they throw in their habitat for the snakes, and mites love to lay eggs in any and everything.

Also, people who buy rats from pet stores are probably going to introduce mites into an enclosure. I made this mistake when I did the pre-killed method and had an outbbreak.

Not everyone believes in frozen thawed. but thanks for attempting to insult me. Much appreciated. ;)

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Originally Posted by Whiffa

who are you to tell me I DON'T know anything? lol

in the wild two snakes will not be seen in close proximity to each other unless they're breeding. It's our job to attempt to recreate a natural setting for them. plain and simple.

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Originally Posted by Whiffa

Breeding snakes every year is extremely unhealthy and a great way to shorten the life span of a breeder. But okay, you CLEARLY know everything.

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Originally Posted by Whiffa

And don't attempt to call ME out and say I have my "panties in a wad"

Unless you're going to actually contribute facts to the thread, pipe down. ;)

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Originally Posted by Whiffa

OH - I also want to throw out the fact that many snake diseases, infections, and parasites are VERY easy to pass on to each other. Housing them together is a fantastic way for snakes who possibly have IBD to pass it on. And mites. And respiratory infections. :)

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For these hard facts you seem to be providing, do you care to share with us your sources? Personal experiences?

You are swimming against the current here, and really doing nothing but saying that other keepers CANT because YOU think they shouldnt be.

You've brought some points up, but beyond the speculation of most of your points, which ones can be backed up by hard facts?

And also, you can try, but to tell someone that they cannot contribute to a thread isn't going to work. ;)

I haven't seen anyone tell YOU that you don't know anything, however they have questioned where you get off telling other keepers that THEY don't know anything. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by DutchHerp

To Jerhart, how big a cage do you keep your pairs or trios in?

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I just have one pair I keep together. They are in an AP T20. 72 x 24 x 24"