Sweet hybrid hook up

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Originally Posted by Lance Portal Reptile

i dont think i need to justify why i like different things....

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Its not justifying what you like. its justifying your reasons for the breeding of two totally different species in captivity.

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Originally Posted by MPenn

Is that a jungle carpet? If so, that would be one time that I know of that cross being tried.

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yes it is a jungle and have been told that i might be the 1st.

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Originally Posted by mooingtricycle

What are you going to do with the offspring?

Do you have a guaranteed way to prevent these animals from getting mixed up later on when/if they are in other peoples hands and muddying up bloodlines in the future?


I wont hate on it, if you are approaching this in a responsible manner, and can Guarantee that the offspring you produce will never ever get mixed up into the bloodlines of either species. ( I will give the same to ANYONE producing hybrids)

If you have no plan... you need to start thinking of one.

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If you have seen any of the hybrids from this type of breeding, there is no way that they could be mistaken for either of the parent species. As for future high percentage crosses (if they are not sterile), it will be anyones gamble.

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Originally Posted by PythonWallace

There is no way, down the road at least. He can microchip all the babies and sell them for what they are, but then all of those people have the same responsability. How can anyone who produces hybrids guarantee that somewhere down the road someone with F3s or F4s all bred back to pure bps or pure carpets will be as honest. I think that's the last thing the carpet hobby needs at this point. And we've seen this exact issue happen with every species that's been hybridized; corns, carpets, boas... Truely responsible and honestly represented hybrids don't happen in the long run, no matter how responsible the intentions are at the begining of a project.

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You are right, the carpet world has had this problem for a very long time. There really is no way to know if these hybrids will get mixed into "pure" lines down the road or not. The best thing I can advise anyone, and I will say this caps, KNOW YOUR HISTORY ON YOUR ANIMALS AND BUY FROM A REPUTABLE BREEDER THAT CAN ALSO TELL YOU WHERE HIS/HER ADULTS CAME FROM. This has not really been much of a problem in the ball world yet but wait till those mongrel balls (75% ball x Borneos) get mixed into the gene pool by unscrupulous breeders.

so whats this mudding bloodlines..if you have a hybrid carpet ball bredd it to a ball breed those babies to a ball and those babies to balls what would be wrong with the blood in it?
would it not breed...not get the results of the ball morph you want or whatever...someone explain

hybrids look dope that burm ball is sick and im all for hybrids.

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Originally Posted by azpythons

so whats this mudding bloodlines..if you have a hybrid carpet ball bredd it to a ball breed those babies to a ball and those babies to balls what would be wrong with the blood in it?
would it not breed...not get the results of the ball morph you want or whatever...someone explain

hybrids look dope that burm ball is sick and im all for hybrids.

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and i would breed them because...i like them....


wow...simply wow ;) this guys a moron

(there beat you to it!!)

And his justification for that is because he likes it.
why do you watch t.v.????
humans wouldnt do that in the wild...

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Originally Posted by mooingtricycle

Its not justifying what you like. its justifying your reasons for the breeding of two totally different species in captivity.

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Originally Posted by azpythons

so whats this mudding bloodlines..if you have a hybrid carpet ball bredd it to a ball breed those babies to a ball and those babies to balls what would be wrong with the blood in it?

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You would have a mutt. No matter how many times you breed the hybrid back with a Ball....it will NEVER be pure. The issue here is that an animal who may look 'pure' down the road would still be say...10% carpet.

....so then down the road...you may purchase a 'pure' ball when in reality it could be a hybrid...

Although not considered hybrids...this is becoming a problem with morelia. It is hard to find a 'pure' JCP. Many have been crossed with Coastals, Diamonds, and IJ's. However people try to breed these offspring back to Jungles...but they are never the same.

ok so are there any problems with having a ball thats 10 percent carpet?? i mean when it comes to breeding or anything??

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Originally Posted by Jerhart

You would have a mutt. No matter how many times you breed the hybrid back with a Ball....it will NEVER be pure. The issue here is that an animal who may look 'pure' down the road would still be say...10% carpet.

....so then down the road...you may purchase a 'pure' ball when in reality it could be a hybrid...

Although not considered hybrids...this is becoming a problem with morelia. It is hard to find a 'pure' JCP. Many have been crossed with Coastals, Diamonds, and IJ's. However people try to breed these offspring back to Jungles...but they are never the same.

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Originally Posted by azpythons

ok so are there any problems with having a ball thats 10 percent carpet?? i mean when it comes to breeding or anything??

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I wouldn't want it for my breeding stock..

Eh I like a few of the hybrids out there and don't have much against them. I wouldn't mind owning it for the novelty factor, that's about it though.