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mojave or not?

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  • 02-05-2009, 02:56 PM
    MarkS
    Re: mojave or not?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by austinr View Post
    whats that mean to a normal person? are you trying to say a normal cant be het for mojave, only a mojave is het for mojave?

    and i would pay that much for it because i trust the lady and i dont think everyone is trying to rip me off all the time

    What that means to a normal person is that Mojave is a codominant trait and so is already a het. If you don't understand the terminology, then why are you paying extra for it? A Mojave is already heterozygous for the Mojave trait. A snake that is homozygous for the Mojave trait is a mostly white snake with blue eyes.

    The fact of the matter is, whether she's doing it on purpose or not, she IS ripping you off because you are not getting what you paid for. If you paid extra money for a car that was supposed to be red with white racing stripes would you be satisfied receiving one that was flat gray?
  • 02-05-2009, 03:06 PM
    austinr
    Re: mojave or not?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MarkS View Post
    What that means to a normal person is that Mojave is a codominant trait and so is already a het. If you don't understand the terminology, then why are you paying extra for it? A Mojave is already heterozygous for the Mojave trait. A snake that is homozygous for the Mojave trait is a mostly white snake with blue eyes.

    The fact of the matter is, whether she's doing it on purpose or not, she IS ripping you off because you are not getting what you paid for. If you paid extra money for a car that was supposed to be red with white racing stripes would you be satisfied receiving one that was flat gray?

    i still dont understand what youre saying lol and just because i dont remember all of my highschool biology mean i should buy a snake? so what youre saying is if you dont know what a V8 or turbo charger is you shouldnt buy a truck? kinda silly

    shes very willing to give me my money back so she isnt ripping me off. if she were to say you bought it, its your fault for not noticing i dont do refunds, then she would be ripping me off

    and sorry to get kinda mouthy with you but i give what i get :D
  • 02-05-2009, 03:15 PM
    MarkS
    Re: mojave or not?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by austinr View Post
    i still dont understand what youre saying lol and just because i dont remember all of my highschool biology mean i should buy a snake? so what youre saying is if you dont know what a V8 or turbo charger is you shouldnt buy a truck? kinda silly

    If you're paying extra for it, don't you think it would be wise to know what it means?


    Quote:

    Originally Posted by austinr View Post
    shes very willing to give me my money back so she isnt ripping me off. if she were to say you bought it, its your fault for not noticing i dont do refunds, then she would be ripping me off

    and sorry to get kinda mouthy with you but i give what i get :D

    And if you didn't catch her at it, would you be getting a refund? If she had it advertised as a Mojave, then she was clearly misrepresenting the animal. I supposed it would have been fine and dandy with you if she had sold this animal to someone else who didn't bother to check if it was real?
  • 02-05-2009, 03:18 PM
    Douglesser
    Re: mojave or not?
    http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/s...ad.php?t=52847

    Check that out it explains the genetics in lame man terms. A Mojave is basically a het for blue eyed lucy. There is no het for mojave. I agree with the pet thing don't return it but I would ask for a partial refund. The most I have ever seen a normal go for is $80 and that is steep. Work out a deal to get free feeders or something. I am sure they were not trying to rip you off. They just aren't educated about BP Morphs.
    Mojave = Co-dom

    :snake2:

    DRS
    Pure Breed Pythons
  • 02-05-2009, 03:25 PM
    austinr
    Re: mojave or not?
    ok so let me try to understand this. if i mated a mojave to a mojave i would get mojaves a blue eyed lucys. or would i get mojaves, blue eyed lucys and normals? and if normals were produced wouldnt they be het for mojave since both parent were mojaves? assuming normals can be made like that

    or how bout this since this i what i think happend. if i mated a normal to a mojave i would get mojaves and normals. would the normals be partial het for mojave? a simple yes or no will do lol i dont quite understand all the co-dom stuff right now

    and what do the numbers in everyones signatures mean? the 0.1 and 2.0 and that stuff
  • 02-05-2009, 03:27 PM
    nybp
    Re: mojave or not?
    are you happy with your "mojave"...then keep it. do you care whether it makes a bunch of normal babies...NO bc u take those normal babies, breed them to a pastel ur getting.......BAMMMM HETS, and u can sell them and make up you difference for being over charged! end of discussion :groinkick
  • 02-05-2009, 03:29 PM
    austinr
    Re: mojave or not?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Douglesser View Post
    http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/s...ad.php?t=52847

    Check that out it explains the genetics in lame man terms. A Mojave is basically a het for blue eyed lucy. There is no het for mojave. I agree with the pet thing don't return it but I would ask for a partial refund. The most I have ever seen a normal go for is $80 and that is steep. Work out a deal to get free feeders or something. I am sure they were not trying to rip you off. They just aren't educated about BP Morphs.
    Mojave = Co-dom

    :snake2:

    DRS
    Pure Breed Pythons

    nicest reply i have got so far lol yea the normals are $65 from these people but ive seen normals at petco go for like $85 or something. i havent bought any ther but thats their price
  • 02-05-2009, 03:32 PM
    nybp
    Re: mojave or not?
    im glad that im the only person to suggest that. everybody was so quick to jump on the RETURN THAT NORMAL band wagon, how many people started with a normal, and moved on from there???? i've been in the ball python "world" for about as long as a hot cup of coffee....excuse the het pastel comment
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by nybp View Post
    .BAMMMM HETS

    i do know it's a codom. so outta a 4 egg clutch, law of avg. says u get 50/50-pastel and normal:oops::oops:
  • 02-05-2009, 03:33 PM
    Douglesser
    Re: mojave or not?
    No you would get plain old normals. If a BP has any genetics for Mojave it would be visually unmistakable.
  • 02-05-2009, 03:33 PM
    Nagini88
    Re: mojave or not?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by austinr View Post
    ok so let me try to understand this. if i mated a mojave to a mojave i would get mojaves a blue eyed lucys. or would i get mojaves, blue eyed lucys and normals? and if normals were produced wouldnt they be het for mojave since both parent were mojaves? assuming normals can be made like that

    it has been said numorous times that there is no het mojave, mojave is a mojave, nomal looking ball pythons produced by a mojave breedings are normals. Nothing more, normals. you would get 25% Blue eyed lucy, 50% mojave, 25% normal from a mojavexmojave beeding
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