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  • 01-08-2009, 01:41 PM
    grammie
    Re: BAD news Georgia... :( ASF's BANNED
    no Deborah, outside means in another building. Just not in the house. But I really am more interested in how to stop this before it gets too far gone.
  • 01-08-2009, 01:47 PM
    GregBennett
    Re: BAD news Georgia... :( ASF's BANNED
    Well I got an email for this guy "Todd N. Nims". He said the same crap to me.

    ASF rats are now going to be know simply as Softed Furred Rats. LOL!!!
  • 01-08-2009, 01:59 PM
    asplundii
    Re: BAD news Georgia... :( ASF's BANNED
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Bettacreek View Post
    Don't be so sure about that. Some of the plant eating species of aquatic snails (those large mystery or apple snails) are banned from interstate shipment/travel. The USDA HAS been knocking on peoples' doors and taking them. These are SNAILS, and haven't been proven to be able to survive Pennsylvania winters, and certainly haven't been proven as a threat to our corn industry (lol). But, yes, they will come knocking on your door and confiscate/kill them. And, just to be clear, it isn't just Pennsylvania officers who are cracking down, people all over the US are getting snails taken from them. These are hobby breeders, some who were just keeping them as pets.


    Little known factoid, agents of said organization can only enter the rooms in the house that you give them permission to enter. So if your "questionable" pets are in, say a back room and you do not give them permission to enter that room then they can not and therefore can not confiscate the animal(s).
  • 01-08-2009, 06:33 PM
    Clear
    Re: BAD news Georgia... :( ASF's BANNED
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mike Cavanaugh View Post
    I disagree.

    Normal Rats and mice are not illegal in Georgia. IMHO, normal rats and mice pose just as much of a threat as ASF's. They also die from the same poisons.

    Keep in mind, the same argument you are supporting is being used to try to ban lots of things... including ball pythons.

    Mike

    Exactly
  • 01-08-2009, 09:39 PM
    Bettacreek
    Re: BAD news Georgia... :( ASF's BANNED
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by asplundii View Post
    Little known factoid, agents of said organization can only enter the rooms in the house that you give them permission to enter. So if your "questionable" pets are in, say a back room and you do not give them permission to enter that room then they can not and therefore can not confiscate the animal(s).

    Ah, but if you're selling restricted animals, they can obtain search warrants.
  • 01-08-2009, 10:29 PM
    littleindiangirl
    Re: BAD news Georgia... :( ASF's BANNED
    ASF's are an incredible pest in Africa, more so than norway rats and mice. Georgia would be prime habitat for them.

    Do I agree they should ban them right away? No, I think this was a knee jerk reaction, but I do see the reason why. However I think this could have been an open floor discussion before they closed the door on them.
  • 01-08-2009, 11:14 PM
    West Coast Jungle
    Re: BAD news Georgia... :( ASF's BANNED
    They are also illegal, like many other animals (ferrets, gerbils), in Cali but people still have them.
  • 01-08-2009, 11:15 PM
    FlowRock
    Re: BAD news Georgia... :( ASF's BANNED
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AaronP View Post
    "Normal" Rats aren't even normal rats, they're from the Netherlands...

    Sorry, but if you think "norwegian" means their dutch (from the netherlands) you are wrong, they are from norway (a scandinavian country) by their name (but I think this is just a scientific name). This is like saying a Texas rattle snake would be coming from Michigan.
    Sorry again, but I am european and love to play the teacher...:D
    And to the topic, sometimes the lawmakers go crazy, in my city a ball python is considered a dangerous species. I guess the officials here are of the size of a hamster, otherwise I can not explain this....:rolleye2:
  • 01-08-2009, 11:16 PM
    Jeff Krupa
    Re: BAD news Georgia... :( ASF's BANNED
    on a side note its also illegal to go over the posted speed limit in Ga...but people do it ...... ??? just kidding
  • 01-08-2009, 11:49 PM
    cardell75
    Re: BAD news Georgia... :( ASF's BANNED
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by littleindiangirl View Post

    Do I agree they should ban them right away? No, I think this was a knee jerk reaction, but I do see the reason why. However I think this could have been an open floor discussion before they closed the door on them.

    On this I think their is a slight misunderstanding ..... The ASFs were never included in the "Allowed Animals" list that is in the Ga State Regulations regarding rodents, therefore have always been ristricted in the state.
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