My new asf colony

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Originally Posted by mcavana

OP, I guess I have to be the one to say it. Dude, I honestly don't think you have any idea what you are doing. You are getting this HUGE amount of animals, when you don't have experience with them at all. I understand you have good intentions, but you are NOT going about this the right way at all.

You are like someone who doesn't even have a ball python yet... but after doing a couple days of reading you decide to buy 50 ball pythons for a breeding project, without even owning one or a few yourself first.

These are live animals we are talking about. Your recent posts show pretty clearly that you tend to act on impulses.

Ask anyone on here... I am always willing to help out a newbee... or anyone else for that matter. That is why I feel it necessary to tell you this. You need to chill out and slow down. These are living, breathing creatures... and you really seem to be making a lot of impulse decisions.s


Mike

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Hey Mike...you said what most of us are thinking...thanks.

Be prepared to give up all your extra minutes and then some when getting started.Your set-up is way different from my small time set-up, but be prepared to walk in first thing in the morning, without coffee or much sleep and see a freshly cleaned tank covered in soaking wet bedding where they pulled the water down. Or whatever, something is going to happen and you will spend a LOT of time getting it down to a science. Especially with the numbers you are going for. Plan accordingly. And did you ask your family if they are prepared all of this?

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Originally Posted by mcavana

OP, I guess I have to be the one to say it. Dude, I honestly don't think you have any idea what you are doing. You are getting this HUGE amount of animals, when you don't have experience with them at all. I understand you have good intentions, but you are NOT going about this the right way at all.

You are like someone who doesn't even have a ball python yet... but after doing a couple days of reading you decide to buy 50 ball pythons for a breeding project, without even owning one or a few yourself first.

These are live animals we are talking about. Your recent posts show pretty clearly that you tend to act on impulses.

Ask anyone on here... I am always willing to help out a newbee... or anyone else for that matter. That is why I feel it necessary to tell you this. You need to chill out and slow down. These are living, breathing creatures... and you really seem to be making a lot of impulse decisions.s


Mike

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Well I thank you for your concern, but I feel that I have enough time and money, and know how to give them a descent life. You look as them as living breathing creatures, I look at them as food. And their days are numbered sorry you dont feel the same way. But this is not a debate, and I am starting my colonies. Because I want to and its something I will enjoy doing, thanks.:gj:

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Originally Posted by MDB

You look as them as living breathing creatures, I look at them as food. And their days are numbered sorry you dont feel the same way.

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I'm sorry for any animal you own that you won't even see them as the living creature they are that will depend wholly on your for their means to survive.

Some people just shouldn't own animals, more so when they don't care enough for the animal to recognize it for what it is. Who's to say it stops there?

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Originally Posted by MDB

Well I thank you for your concern, but I feel that I have enough time and money, and know how to give them a descent life. You look as them as living breathing creatures, I look at them as food. And their days are numbered sorry you dont feel the same way. But this is not a debate, and I am starting my colonies. Because I want to and its something I will enjoy doing, thanks.:gj:

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Until you feed off each one of them they are living creatures that need food, water, fresh bedding weekly at least... How do you know you are not allergic to the asfs? How do you know you can handle that many at once? You haven't even had a small colony yet.

You should really slow down and take it one step at a time. You have to walk before you leap.

Just trying to help....

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Originally Posted by MDB

Well I thank you for your concern, but I feel that I have enough time and money, and know how to give them a descent life. You look as them as living breathing creatures, I look at them as food. And their days are numbered sorry you dont feel the same way. But this is not a debate, and I am starting my colonies. Because I want to and its something I will enjoy doing, thanks.:gj:

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Ouch.:( I hope you sell your collection, to good people.

To give you an example... I had a nice rack setup of asfs... Ive had some trios producing etc etc etc....

I came across about 150+ asfs... Mix of weaners, babys, sub adults... It was mind boggling how many there were and it was hard work. They lasted me a good time and I still have breeding pairs going from them. I can honestly say I thought I could handle it and it wouldnt be too hard, but boy was I surprised how much work it truly was..

We got it done each week but it was a handful...

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Originally Posted by MDB

You look as them as living breathing creatures, I look at them as food. And their days are numbered sorry you dont feel the same way.

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We all look at our rodents as food. It's fact of life but if you're gonna breed your own you have to step up to the plate and realize that all food lives at some point and that until you're ready to stick it in the freezer it has needs. These are living creatures no matter how you look at them, and as food items you should want them as healthy and happy as possible to pass on the benefits to your bps. :P

We may be jumping the gun here, getting on your case. We don't know what your setup looks like yet or how well you treat them, but we care so sometimes we get overzealous. :oops:

There is a point to be made though, you only have what...14 bp's. And you've got hundreds of rodents comeing... it's overkill, especially since you don't know if you'll enjoy having them or if it will turn out to be too much work.

So keep us posted. I always love seeing how people deal with their animal collections. Good luck :D

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Originally Posted by MDB

You look as them as living breathing creatures, I look at them as food. And their days are numbered sorry you dont feel the same way. But this is not a debate, and I am starting my colonies.

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I know I contacted you in regard to your ad looking for ASF's, but I am sorry, in good concience, I will not sell you any ASF's, or anything else for that matter.

I would normaly wish you good luck at this point, but I'm just not feeling it.


Good Day.

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Originally Posted by mcavana

I know I contacted you in regard to your ad looking for ASF's, but I am sorry, in good concience, I will not sell you any ASF's, or anything else for that matter.

I would normaly wish you good luck at this point, but I'm just not feeling it.


Good Day.

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lol thanks but your opinion means nothing to me, I have many clients already lined up. I understand that they need fed,watered,cleaned, on a regular basis. I thank you for the offer in the past, but I also would not purchase anything off of you. If I recall correctly you contacted me about selling me asf rats, not the other way around. I love being the under dogg, proving you all wrong makes it so worth it.:gj:

JasonG I find it funny, that you are being hypocritical. When you also just yesterday talked to me about selling me asf rats. ??? lol thanks but I am good on that. I already have my connections, and enough to start with what I want. :D