Police here have no lives..

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Originally Posted by ADEE

That is not true.. has nothign to do with the end of the month!!! The guy was breaking the law, he deserves to go to jail.
STOP BREAKING THE LAW AND YOU HAVE NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT!

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You're trying to tell us that you have never driven even 1 mph over the speed limit ever, and that anyone who does belongs in jail? :confused:

That's a scary post. I have a video where a gentleman who was a cop, military prosecuter and a federal prosecuter says that any cop can find a reason to pull someone over, usually within following them for less than one block. There are hundreds of things a person can do that is considered a violation. So unless you have never driven a car, you have most likely broken some law every time you got behind the wheel. Feel free to turn yourself in for your jail time at your earliest convenience.

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Originally Posted by PythonWallace

You're trying to tell us that you have never driven even 1 mph over the speed limit ever, and that anyone who does belongs in jail? :confused:

That's a scary post. I have a video where a gentleman who was a cop, military prosecuter and a federal prosecuter says that any cop can find a reason to pull someone over, usually within following them for less than one block. There are hundreds of things a person can do that is considered a violation. So unless you have never driven a car, you have most likely broken some law every time you got behind the wheel. Feel free to turn yourself in for your jail time at your earliest convenience.

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This.

I don't know about racial profiling, but they have to have probable cause to search his car. I would refuse and make them get a warrant. Alot of police abuse of power comes from people's lack of knowledge of the law. Consenting to search rarely helps the situation.

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Originally Posted by ADEE

That is not true.. has nothign to do with the end of the month!!! The guy was breaking the law, he deserves to go to jail.
STOP BREAKING THE LAW AND YOU HAVE NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT!

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Take this from a Criminology student who was about to go into Police Foundations, every officer in North America DOES have a quota to fill by the end of the month; just the same as doctors with how many prescriptions they write out. I'm a female who drives a 5 speed manual transmission Nissan 240SX sports car. You wouldn't believe me if I told you I get pulled over AT LEAST once every single month since I've started driving that car a year ago. Guess what? I have NO speeding tickets on my record and a few months ago, I got pulled over by an angry cop who clearly had nothing better to do with his time. I got a careless driving ticket ($900) because some moron decides not to check his blind spots when switching lanes, almost hits my car, and because I swerve out of his way to avoid an accident, I'm the one getting the ticket. Go figure. If they have a choice between the family sedan and the sports car covered in drifting and track stickers, guess who they'll be pulling over? There's good and bad cops, I'm not disagreeing with you that a majority of them do their jobs, but you have to put two and two together and realize that obviously, when you have the power they do, you'll use it to your advantage. And you know what? Chances are, if you don't know the law and your rights and freedoms (in order to outsmart the cop), they will use almost everything and anything within their power to use against you. It's a violation of your privacy for a cop to search your car if they pulled you over for speeding. However, 90% of the drugs found in cars are done through doing this. And of course, it's useless trying to defend yourself in court. Unless you know that information straight off the bat, there's no way for you to keep yourself safe. So basically, if you're going to complain about cops, know your law, know your rights and freedoms, and obey the law. That is all.

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Originally Posted by norm

I don't know about racial profiling, but they have to have probable cause to search his car. I would refuse and make them get a warrant. Alot of police abuse of power comes from people's lack of knowledge of the law. Consenting to search rarely helps the situation.

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Consenting to a search, or saying ANYTHING, NEVER helps the situation. I have to find that video. That is the entire topic of the whole 30 minute video. And in a lot of cases, at least in Chicago, you can try all you want to stop the police from illegally seaching your car, but they never listen. They have never wanted to see my insurance card, they always just run my name and DL, put me against the hood and rip my car apart, before telling me to stay out of the bad areas. I've told them that I hadn't done anything and that I do not give them permission to search anything, nor will I waive any rights, and they tell me to STFU, threaten to take me in an alley and kick the hell out of me, then rip my car apart anyway.

Edit: Found the link: http://www.boingboing.net/2008/07/28...d-cop-agr.html Great video!!!

Okay everybody, let's get back to the original post. This involved two juveniles out at 2am. I would suspect that they were probably the only car on the road in that area at the time. Let's do a hypothetical. The police officer while patrolling sees the car with two people in it at 2am and starts to follow them. As stated there are several reasons someone could be pulled over. After following them for a short while he notices that they have a tag light out or maybe they swerve just a little. He pulls them over and finds that two young kids are driving the car. HUMMM. Why are they out so late. I'm sure he asked, don't know what they said, but that's not important. What is important is that one of those kids is in violation of curfew. After making an arrest, in this case the curfew violation, they then have the right to search the car. When they do maybe they find drugs or stuff they suspect to be stolen from cars in the area or tools that could be used to break into cars or vandalize property. In this case it appears they did not find anything other then a curfew violation. Where they doing there job? I say yes. :gj:

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Originally Posted by PythonWallace

You're trying to tell us that you have never driven even 1 mph over the speed limit ever, and that anyone who does belongs in jail? :confused:

That's a scary post. I have a video where a gentleman who was a cop, military prosecuter and a federal prosecuter says that any cop can find a reason to pull someone over, usually within following them for less than one block. There are hundreds of things a person can do that is considered a violation. So unless you have never driven a car, you have most likely broken some law every time you got behind the wheel. Feel free to turn yourself in for your jail time at your earliest convenience.

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im not saying everyone deserves to be in jail, thats seriously taking it to the extreme, have i "broken" the law? Yes, I have been in accidents that were "my fault" i have speeding tickets, exc, AND even if they had flicked a cigarette butt they wouldve also been smoking illegally... BUT if you are 16 driving after cerfew the officer cant allow you to leave and continue to drive after cerfew therefore yes, you should go to jail... the cop couldve been nice and let the kid who wasnt illegally out drive home but we also dont know what the whole scenario was. you have no idea if these kids mouthed off, had drugs, weapons, exc... Should you go to jail for every violation? No but fess up when your doing something wrong and either serve you time, pay the fine, exc. Dont whine about cops doing their job...

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Originally Posted by Pandora

Take this from a Criminology student who was about to go into Police Foundations, every officer in North America DOES have a quota to fill by the end of the month; just the same as doctors with how many prescriptions they write out. I'm a female who drives a 5 speed manual transmission Nissan 240SX sports car. You wouldn't believe me if I told you I get pulled over AT LEAST once every single month since I've started driving that car a year ago. Guess what? I have NO speeding tickets on my record and a few months ago, I got pulled over by an angry cop who clearly had nothing better to do with his time. I got a careless driving ticket ($900) because some moron decides not to check his blind spots when switching lanes, almost hits my car, and because I swerve out of his way to avoid an accident, I'm the one getting the ticket. Go figure. If they have a choice between the family sedan and the sports car covered in drifting and track stickers, guess who they'll be pulling over? There's good and bad cops, I'm not disagreeing with you that a majority of them do their jobs, but you have to put two and two together and realize that obviously, when you have the power they do, you'll use it to your advantage. And you know what? Chances are, if you don't know the law and your rights and freedoms (in order to outsmart the cop), they will use almost everything and anything within their power to use against you. It's a violation of your privacy for a cop to search your car if they pulled you over for speeding. However, 90% of the drugs found in cars are done through doing this. And of course, it's useless trying to defend yourself in court. Unless you know that information straight off the bat, there's no way for you to keep yourself safe. So basically, if you're going to complain about cops, know your law, know your rights and freedoms, and obey the law. That is all.

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WRONG, my father in law is a retired police chief. He has worked for large cities in South Florida to smaller departments and "the end of the month quota" was never in place for any of the depts he worked for.

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I got pulled over by an angry cop who clearly had nothing better to do with his time. I got a careless driving ticket ($900) because some moron decides not to check his blind spots when switching lanes, almost hits my car, and because I swerve out of his way to avoid an accident, I'm the one getting the ticket. Go figure.

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Yeah, it sucks how the system works sometimes. Now I've had my fair share of speeding tickets (nearly all were less than 15 over), but whenever I see some punk racing down the road in his suped-up honda with an ugly spoiler and doing at least 80, I can't help but wonder where the cops are then? Sure, I was in a hurry because I was late for work, but who is more of a danger to those around him? Me or the idiot young twerp who thinks he should be in the next Fast and the Furious movie?

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If they have a choice between the family sedan and the sports car covered in drifting and track stickers, guess who they'll be pulling over?

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I can certainly relate to this. Since I started driving in 1998, these have been vehicles I've driven:

- brown Buick oldsmobile Lordknows how old
- black Chevy Blazer
- sky blue Chevy Silverado
- tan Chevy Cavalier
- blue Astro van
- white Chevy Venture van

...out of those 6 cars, which do you think I got the most tickets in? The black SUV and the tiny car. And believe me, I've sped over the limit equally in all of them.

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Originally Posted by FIREball

WRONG, my father in law is a retired police chief. He has worked for large cities in South Florida to smaller departments and "the end of the month quota" was never in place for any of the depts he worked for.

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Hmm...maybe thats the way it is in Florida, but I've had several cops in Alabama and LA say otherwise. They DO have a quota.