How do you know...?

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Originally Posted by nathanledet

Baby Steps...if you start telling someone who has no idea about genetics ... it will simply go right over their head.

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I agree, but the concepts here are not overly complex when taught separately, and there is, and should be, a very distinct separation between the two.

It's like the constant "what would this make" threads that pop up, in which signal is largely overwhelmed by the noise of people who can't remember whether a super pastel mixed with a spider can make killer bees or not, and are unable to draw out the punnett square to check what they're claiming to be the possible offspring.

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Originally Posted by Spaniard

If you're really interested on learning about these animals you should consider buying the book from VPI or NERD. They're a little pricey for a book but the amount of information contained inside is priceless. (Not to mention all the great pics :))

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I will definitely look in to it. The ones that are keepers always are a little more pricey.

Information is what I'm craving - so these books seem to be up my alley!

Thanks!!!!!

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Originally Posted by littleindiangirl

In the terms for genetics it is. Do you have an example maybe?

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well...the one I said when I quoted you....a "het ivory"

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Originally Posted by Spaniard

OIt gets confusing with all the different wording that gets thrown around...I was second guessing myself.

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which was why I was trying to keep it simple. You start taking Phenol type and allele new comers who have no genetic background find it easier to have a 1 + 1 = 2 answer and grow from there.

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Originally Posted by soy.lor.n

well...the one I said when I quoted you....a "het ivory"

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Yellow belly is a co-dominant trait. Partially expressed when only 1 copy of the gene is present. Fully expressed as an ivory when there are 2 copies.

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Originally Posted by Freakie_frog

Then to keep it simple would it be simpler to say that a "Het" carries one half the genetic code needed to created a visual mutation. Instead of trying to confuse people by pointing out that technically a het can be a visual mutation?

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Sure, it's easier, and in addition to the confusion it causes, it also provides the benefit of allowing neophytes to be exploited on a regular basis by people passing off normals as het-for-random-co-dominant-trait for hundreds of dollars.

I say just teach it correctly the first time.

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Originally Posted by Freakie_frog

which was why I was trying to keep it simple. You start taking Phenol type and allele new comers who have no genetic background find it easier to have a 1 + 1 = 2 answer and grow from there.

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:D
You think Benzenol maybe...or carbolic acid?
sorry...."phenol type"...I'm a jerk when it comes to science...:P

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Originally Posted by littleindiangirl

Yellow belly is a co-dominant trait. Partially expressed when only 1 copy of the gene is present. Fully expressed as an ivory when there are 2 copies.

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exactly.
but it's often called "het ivory" anyway

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Originally Posted by soy.lor.n

exactly.
but it's often called "het ivory" anyway

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Soooo, where's the argument? You just agreed with my original post! :P lol

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Originally Posted by soy.lor.n

well yeah, because you said a het is a carrier for a recessive trait, and that's not always true

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Het only means there is ONE copy of an allele. No more, no less.
Homo means there are 2 alleles....

Maybe thats what your confused about?

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Originally Posted by soy.lor.n

:D
You think Benzenol maybe...or carbolic acid?
sorry...."phenol type"...I'm a jerk when it comes to science...:P

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:bow::bow::bow:

Yea stupid auto spell check..