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Derma balls

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  • 03-16-2008, 06:13 AM
    Big Gunns
    Re: Derma balls
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JASBALLS View Post
    Are you saying Dwarves are a genetic Flaw? And Blind people also? WOW!

    Is this the one and only "Jas" trying to be "politically correct"?:) I guess they were out of Molson out the local liquor store.:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
  • 03-16-2008, 08:14 AM
    loxocemus
    Re: Derma balls
    there were/are two "derma" balls that i know of, the one in this thread and another less extreme but very similar, the head had more scales, cant say if it had pits or not, i only saw the pic so im afraid i cant tell you if its still alive or who owns/owned it, but there are/were more than one, which i suppose increases the chances of it being inheritable.

    loxo
  • 03-16-2008, 08:50 AM
    Morphie
    Re: Derma balls
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JASBALLS View Post
    Are you saying Dwarves are a genetic Flaw? And Blind people also? WOW!

    It's a genetic mutation that causes it. It deviates from what evolution has determined to be a "normal" member of Homo sapiens. In that sense, it is a "flaw".

    Keep in mind, though, it's a massive network of these "flaws" that have made us what we are. Without mutations (some randomly beneficial, giving certain members an advantage) there would be no evolution. Unfortunately, in the case of the blind person, he would most likely be selected against. The dwarf on the other hand - well it would depend on his environment if he would do better or worse for his size.
  • 03-16-2008, 09:02 AM
    Morphie
    Re: Derma balls
    tried to edit but apparently i was past the "10 minute mark" (??)

    Fortunately, we're currently at the top of the food chain and have complex systems in place to attempt to give everyone an equal footing. The blind person is not going to die just because he can't see (the way he might have a few hundred thousand years ago).

    Other things, like Cystic Fibrosis and Sickle-cell Anemia are also genetic (correct me if i'm wrong). They're mutations that cause the homozygous form to be heavily selected against. These would very accurately be described as flaws, don't you think? And they're the same thing - genetic differences from the norm causing advantages or disadvantages for the carrier.
  • 03-16-2008, 10:02 AM
    stormbourne
    Re: Derma balls
    Some blindness can be genetic flaws, for instance - if babies are born without the correct receptors to send signals to and from the central nervous system, or if they are lacking parts of the eye etc. However, a lot of blindness comes from problems in the womb, or while birthing or even developed from some sort of disease, which is not necessarily genetic. As far as dwarfism, my dad is 5'5", and I am 4'11". My kids are shorties too, I'll tell you if they prove out in a few years *snicker*
  • 03-16-2008, 10:52 AM
    hgrub
    Re: Derma balls
    Saw pic of scaleless normal cornsnake and it's cool. Can't wait till someone produce scaleless hypo miami stripe corn...should be in 6-7 years from now I think.

    Next year there'll be scaleless texas rat, scaleless corn, and scaleless bearded dragon in the market lol Is there anything else genetically(is that a word? lol) scaleless?
  • 03-16-2008, 01:56 PM
    snkcraz
    Re: Derma balls
    Derma is still alive and well. It is owned by Justin Sakov. I have been to his house and seen the animal on several occasions. There are pictures of derma breeding females but they never took. Justin has offered to let me run it through some females but that will have to wait till next season. I believe he would sell him for the right price. He is not into the snakes as much as he was. He has told me some interesting stories over the last six months of knowing him. The snake is around 700 grams eating every couple of weeks. The heat pits are under the skin. Even thinking about borrowing him makes me nervous. I know he was offered alot of money for the animal and I think he kicks himself for not taking the money, but he is able to laugh about it. Alot of people put Derma down but it is a awesome animal.
  • 03-17-2008, 10:08 PM
    mricyfire
    Re: Derma balls
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by snkcraz View Post
    Derma is still alive and well. It is owned by Justin Sakov. I have been to his house and seen the animal on several occasions. There are pictures of derma breeding females but they never took. Justin has offered to let me run it through some females but that will have to wait till next season. I believe he would sell him for the right price. He is not into the snakes as much as he was. He has told me some interesting stories over the last six months of knowing him. The snake is around 700 grams eating every couple of weeks. The heat pits are under the skin. Even thinking about borrowing him makes me nervous. I know he was offered alot of money for the animal and I think he kicks himself for not taking the money, but he is able to laugh about it. Alot of people put Derma down but it is a awesome animal.

    x2 I got tons of pics of him from back in the day if the people on here want me to post em.
  • 03-18-2008, 04:39 PM
    Texas Dan
    Re: Derma balls
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by stormbourne View Post
    Some blindness can be genetic flaws, for instance - if babies are born without the correct receptors to send signals to and from the central nervous system, or if they are lacking parts of the eye etc. However, a lot of blindness comes from problems in the womb, or while birthing or even developed from some sort of disease, which is not necessarily genetic. As far as dwarfism, my dad is 5'5", and I am 4'11". My kids are shorties too, I'll tell you if they prove out in a few years *snicker*

    hhahaha!
  • 03-18-2008, 04:41 PM
    FL0OD
    Re: Derma balls
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mricyfire View Post
    x2 I got tons of pics of him from back in the day if the people on here want me to post em.

    throw them up
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