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My thought on the matter is- J&J, even if the normal female was a free "throw in," you guys should have tried a little harder to make sure all animals coming through you are healthy. This one free normal female that you flipped looks like it costed you a return customer and perhaps some potential customers.

Josh we went over the putting the pastel and pin in with the normal on the phone just 10 min ago. Just so everyone knows. He sold me the pastel and normal "So I could go ahead and get to breeding". So I thought she was fine. Josh don't try and make this out like I did something wrong. You told me I could breed this girl, and why would I quarantine all the animals I got from you. I quarantined them away from the animals I already owned. But why should I have to put every animal I get from you in different rooms. I thought thats what you would have done before they were sold. I guess not!!!!!!!!! I told you on the phone I wouldn't reply to a post you made unless I thought you were trying to put this off on me for putting the males in with the girl. YOU TOLD ME TO BREED HER!!! Or do you not remember that. And you should try and keep the animals for over a week to make sure they're not messed up. Anyway I'm not attacking anyone. I was just putting what happened to me out there.

Alan

Well said >>>>>>>>>>>>Rapture

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Originally Posted by grunt_11b

Josh we went over the putting the pastel and pin in with the normal on the phone just 10 min ago. Just so everyone knows. He sold me the pastel and normal "So I could go ahead and get to breeding". So I thought she was fine. Josh don't try and make this out like I did something wrong. You told me I could breed this girl, and why would I quarantine all the animals I got from you. I quarantined them away from the animals I already owned. But why should I have to put every animal I get from you in different rooms. I thought thats what you would have done before they were sold. I guess not!!!!!!!!! I told you on the phone I wouldn't reply to a post you made unless I thought you were trying to put this off on me for putting the males in with the girl. YOU TOLD ME TO BREED HER!!! Or do you not remember that. And you should try and keep the animals for over a week to make sure they're not messed up. Anyway I'm not attacking anyone. I was just putting what happened to me out there.

Alan

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Well said Alan! I know this is hard for you buying all of those animals from the same Flipper, But try to keep your head up Man! Keep takeing them to the vet and doing what they and the people on here say to do and you should be fine.. Or Buy More snakes from complete.. Never mind lol! Good luck Man! And keep the world informed of any other problems/ Or none problems with theses Flipped animals!

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Originally Posted by Rapture

My thought on the matter is- J&J, even if the normal female was a free "throw in," you guys should have tried a little harder to make sure all animals coming through you are healthy. This one free normal female that you flipped looks like it costed you a return customer and perhaps some potential customers.

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She was fine when we had her, like we said we had her for about a week before we sold her. When he got the animals Allen said everything looked good and he was happy with everything. That was the last thing we heard until a week ago when we called just to catch up and see how every thing was going, he said the female hadn't eaten , but that was all we had heard from it, if she had a diarrhea or any other problem we would have gladly taken care of it if we were notified when it happened.

Jas - We recommend people quarantine all animals from anywhere when they get them, obviously larger dealers cannot do that as the animals sell to fast. It is the buyers responsibility to practice there own quarantine procedures.

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Originally Posted by jnjreptiles

She was fine when we had her, like we said we had her for about a week before we sold her. When he got the animals Allen said everything looked good and he was happy with everything. That was the last thing we heard until a week ago when we called just to catch up and see how every thing was going, he said the female hadn't eaten , but that was all we had heard from it, if she had a diarrhea or any other problem we would have gladly taken care of it if we were notified when it happened.

Jas - We recommend people quarantine all animals from anywhere when they get them, obviously larger dealers cannot do that as the animals sell to fast. It is the buyers responsibility to practice there own quarantine procedures.

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flippers suck!

Again josh I did quarantine the animals I got from you. They have come no where near the animals I had before. But why would I quarantine every animal I got from you. Especially since you told me that you gave her to me so I could " get started breeding this year". And I answered your calls why not answer mine. I told you not to try and make this my fault. And you did, thats not cool. I never attacked you just like we talked about on the phone. But you throw the word "supposedly" in there like i'm not telling the truth. And say I shouldn't have put the males in with her. I put the pastel in before she ever had a bad bowl movement. So again I just don't want anyone else to get a bad animal. If all this does is make you start worming every animal you get in then I've done my part.

Alan

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We recommend people quarantine all animals from anywhere when they get them, obviously larger dealers cannot do that as the animals sell to fast. It is the buyers responsibility to practice there own quarantine procedures....



She was fine when we had her,

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Time to leave this "Larger dealer" alone, and not bother them with any more orders!

How dare you take your non-chalant attitude, suggesting this was his falt for not seperately quarantineing the animals from one shipment! How about a sincere appology? How about a FULL REFUND, letting him keep the snakes he is able to save?

I will be sure to mention this thread any time I see anyone looking for a breeder... You better make this right, and you better do it now.

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Originally Posted by mcavana

Time to leave this "Larger dealer" alone, and not bother them with any more orders!

How dare you take your non-chalant attitude, suggesting this was his falt for not seperately quarantineing the animals from one shipment! How about a sincere appology? How about a FULL REFUND, letting him keep the snakes he is able to save?

I will be sure to mention this thread any time I see anyone looking for a breeder... You better make this right, and you better do it now.

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I have talked with Allen and apologised to him about the problem and offered to help him with any questions or advise. It is past our guarantee, the female was free, we are not taking a nonchalant attitude with this, we have spoke with him about this.
As we said we knew nothing of this until last night when he called.

Allen - I missed your calls as my phone is off, we are getting my son to bed, if you want I will call you tomorrow and we can talk more about this.

She was not w.c she was a c.b or c.h normal female.
We never said go ahead and breed her, we said she was a breedable size female that we could throw in for him.

We told him that we have a lot of animals coming and going, he had mentioned wanting some lessers the next month, so he knew we did not have a chance to quarantine everything.

Hell, No need to qt EVERYTHING when $ is involved!! Sicko!!