Switching to Tub, Need Clarification on a Few Points

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Originally Posted by JoshJP7

You dont have to keep your snake in a wee little tub if you dont want to... I start my babies off in a 66qt tubs and theyre doing just fine...they have 2 hides, big water bowl, and something to climb on... all 3 eat every week like pigs and are as happy as can be. More importantly worry about your temps and humidity... as long as those are on and you got some nice snug hides you should be fine... I picked up the herp pro about a month ago and its pretty sweet, youll like it. I got some pics of my baby set ups if you wanna check em out.

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Are you serious. Even adult ball pythons can't live in a 66 qt tub, maybe a 40 qt tub for an adult. 15 qt is for babies. not 66qt! You could ask anyone here! 66qt tub is not good at all! WAY TOO BIG!

Thanks for your opinion but I wasnt the one asking for advice... I have experience with balls and I know what they need. What are you gonna say when I tell you that I house my 4 1yr olds in 4ftx2ftx1.5 cages? Tell me its "way too big?"... Please enlighten me... why is it "way too big?"

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Originally Posted by JoshJP7

Thanks for your opinion but I wasnt the one asking for advice... I have experience with balls and I know what they need. What are you gonna say when I tell you that I house my 4 1yr olds in 4ftx2ftx1.5 cages? Tell me its "way too big?"... Please enlighten me... why is it "way too big?"

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Any one one this site would tell you a 66qt tub for a yearling is too big

Mitch, you'll find with further experience that yes most ball python owners do go with the smaller is better concept of housing. Some, like Josh, prefer a different method and are firm in that belief.

I'd ask you both to not de-rail this thread with it's specific housing questions with a long arguement about tub sizes. Both of you have expressed yourselves well but a full discussion specific only to tub sizes would perhaps be better suited to a seperate thread (though I think you'll both find numerous threads already that have covered this issue fully).

Your fright Franky sorry for the thred highjack... I understand that theres several methods to keeping a snake and no one answer is the "right" answer I just have a hard time when others do not see both sides of the fence...

Back to the original post that is already in progress :)

Yeah, my roomate has his pet hatchling in a 66 qt bin (it might even be bigger). Snake has a water bowl hide, a second hide, and climbing branch. He uses all of them, and we got him converted to f/t within a month, and he feeds like a trooper. Gaining weight, shedding well, etc.
I would say, if you're having problems with a hatchling feeding, a smaller bin sometimes helps them to feel more secure, but for a problem-free hatchling, a larger cage just means more room to exercise when they move around at night.
This is the snake's permanent cage, he simply got one of a size appropriate to house a large adult ball python.
Anyhow, this is not a continuation of hijacking, but agreement with the suggestion that a larger bin can be used to give more room for adequate hides and such.

On tub size, I am going with the 30 QT Iris tub. It looks to be about the same size as Mindibun's tub and I'm pretty sure my girl is larger than the one in the pic. I can provide hides galore ... and it will still be half the size of what she has been staying in. I'm sure now that she's eating again that she will catch back up to her former weight and beyond, so she should be a 500 gram snake in a few months. Hopefully, it is a good choice!

As for the flexwatt, I ended up going with two Ultratherm Undertank Heaters, one 6"x11" and one 11"x11". I talked with Rich about how high and low the temps were likely to get in my house and that I had a thermostat to control a warm and cool side piece of flexwatt. He said if the nighttime, winter temps could get in the upper 60s, that with just a single tub, I might end up having problems with the flexwatt. So ... hopefully it is a good choice. I was a little worried about not covering more of the floor space (22" x 18"), but he said it was important not to cover it all, just in case something goes wrong and the heat sources get way too hot.

Anybody have any opinions either way?

Thanks!

Peggy :)

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Originally Posted by Chaosangel

On tub size, I am going with the 30 QT Iris tub. It looks to be about the same size as Mindibun's tub and I'm pretty sure my girl is larger than the one in the pic. I can provide hides galore ... and it will still be half the size of what she has been staying in. I'm sure now that she's eating again that she will catch back up to her former weight and beyond, so she should be a 500 gram snake in a few months. Hopefully, it is a good choice!

As for the flexwatt, I ended up going with two Ultratherm Undertank Heaters, one 6"x11" and one 11"x11". I talked with Rich about how high and low the temps were likely to get in my house and that I had a thermostat to control a warm and cool side piece of flexwatt. He said if the nighttime, winter temps could get in the upper 60s, that with just a single tub, I might end up having problems with the flexwatt. So ... hopefully it is a good choice. I was a little worried about not covering more of the floor space (22" x 18"), but he said it was important not to cover it all, just in case something goes wrong and the heat sources get way too hot.

Anybody have any opinions either way?

Thanks!

Peggy :)

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Man rich is always helping folks out. Rich is the shiznit.