For those who feed outside of there BP's cage/tank?

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Originally Posted by bearhart

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You make broad sweeping generalizations, and you tell everyone else they're either ignorant or inexperienced, then wonder why no one cares what you have to say. Stop dismissing people for one, and two, do what works for you, others will do the same.

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Originally Posted by JLC

Maybe you're not feeding enough? It's highly likely that a young, growing BP is just looking for food all the time and he would be tracking your hands now, whether he was fed inside the enclosure or out of it.

Quite honestly, I don't care one whit whether someone wants to feed inside or outside their enclosure. Just like I don't care whether someone chooses to feed live or f/t. I just like to make sure that someone new to "the game" is aware of the pros and cons and misconceptions of each method.

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Exactly my point. However if you read your standard thread on this issue that's not what happens. I'm not saying everybody here does it but alot of people do. I wish that's the way it was but most threads on this subject aren't that way. I, for one, feel that in this particular case I was given fairly inaccurate info. It does make a difference and I'm going to say so and I'm going to say that everybody who ever told me it didn't make a difference (or was bad) was wrong. sure 3/4 of people here feed in-cage so I'm going to get roasted but whatever.

If you're the kind of person that gives thoughtful unsarcastic replies on subjects like this then I'm not talking about you. I'm not attacking people who feed in-cage. I just think that its not accurate to give the impression that there aren't trade-offs. And, if people are so convinced that that's not the case and somehow my BP is different then so be it.

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Originally Posted by bearhart

sure 3/4 of people here feed in-cage so I'm going to get roasted but whatever.

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Bearhart,

It is one thing to voice your opinion but it is another to sound harsh and angry and say that everyone that told you so was wrong. I don't know if I have read the thread where people were trying to get you to feed in enclosure or whatever happened, but from what I have read on other threads like this, I feel that the general consensus on this site is whatever it takes to get your snake to eat. F/t, live, in enclosure, out of enclosure...... whatever the snakes preferance is then that's what you go by. Each snake is different as well as every owner. My BP prefers live/ in her enclosure. Before I came to this site, all the caresheets I had read basically shunned this idea saying f/t in separate enclosure was the way to go. But I feel as long as I do it responsibly (ie. supervise, don't leave in if BP rejects, etc. etc.) then it is fine. Live is how nature intended and I don;t underestimate the capabilities of my BP. But I am not on here saying that everyone that says f/t is wrong. I understand the pros and cons to both, and this is her preference.

I think it is great that you tried something new, but if it is not working, instead of coming on here all angry because now your bp is trying to strike at you, maybe you should go back to the way that you felt it was working. And if your BP then settles back down and is no longer striking, then GREAT!!! You now know what works for you and your snake. You shouldn't come on here bashing everyone else that you feel was wrong just because that way didn't work for you. There are many different ways to accomplish the same thing, you are always going to undertake a little bit of trial and error to see what works, and when you find what works then stick to it.

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Originally Posted by bearhart

And, if people are so convinced that that's not the case and somehow my BP is different then so be it.

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Your BP is different, because each snake has his own personality. I started out with both of my BP's feeding in seperate enclosures, but when you have 8+ other animals to feed/clean, and then have other things to do in the day, it was just more practical for me to feed in their enclosure, make sure they constrict and kill their rats safely, and then move on. My female normal has shown no noticable difference in behavior when it comes to feeding. But then again, she has a very laid back temperment. My pastel male is more active, and more alert, "stalking" anything that moves near him, and even occasionally will check out the TV. So of course he's going to follow me after he's eaten. He does that reguardless.
How many times had you fed your BP outside of his enclosure since you've had him? Do you think it could have been possible that your snake was still adjusting during that period of time that it would have been difficult to judge his (or her) personality while the snake was still settling in?
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Also, if you're so angry about your BP's temperment while being fed in his enclosure, why not switch back to feeding him in his tub? If you're that upset about it, and really believe that feeding in his enclosure is the cause of this bad temperment, then I would just go back to doing what had worked best for you. As long as your BP continues to eat well and is healthy, there shouldn't be a problem.

"08-28-2007 01:30 AM read before posting"

you're funny.





Anyway, just because a snake acts like a snake and not a puppy is no reason to get angry.

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Originally Posted by qiksilver

"08-28-2007 01:30 AM read before posting"

you're funny.





Anyway, just because a snake acts like a snake and not a puppy is no reason to get angry.

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Once again you clearly demonstrate that you don't actually read the posts carefully and are only interested in sarcastic comments and being part of a pile-on.

I clearly stated that I observed a *significant change* in my snake's behavior. That change was significant aggressiveness from a snake that had never displayed any such behavior. If you don't think that's a bad thing then I guess that's OK for you. However, I think that minimizing aggressive behavior would be of interest to any pet owner.

I also apologized and admitted that I was angry. That should be something people respect. But apparently you didn't want to let it ruin your fun.

Also, to other's comments I agree - I will either ride it out and see if he improves or I can switch back and I'm sure he'll go back to his old behavior. That's not what I'm P.O'd about. As somebody who has been on the receiving end of some very demeaning and insulting threads on this very issue, I would like to point out that I think that this issue deserves a little more care than your typical "There's no reason you should do that." or "That sounds like a good way to get bit".

Once again, this comment does not apply to everybody here. I have had several members give me very well thought out advice on the subject.

Anyway, I've said my peace and have no desire to fight with anybody. If I crossed the line in the previous posts I apologize.

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Originally Posted by Purrrfect9

Your BP is different, because each snake has his own personality. I started out with both of my BP's feeding in seperate enclosures, but when you have 8+ other animals to feed/clean, and then have other things to do in the day, it was just more practical for me to feed in their enclosure, make sure they constrict and kill their rats safely, and then move on. My female normal has shown no noticable difference in behavior when it comes to feeding. But then again, she has a very laid back temperment. My pastel male is more active, and more alert, "stalking" anything that moves near him, and even occasionally will check out the TV. So of course he's going to follow me after he's eaten. He does that reguardless.
How many times had you fed your BP outside of his enclosure since you've had him? Do you think it could have been possible that your snake was still adjusting during that period of time that it would have been difficult to judge his (or her) personality while the snake was still settling in?
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Also, if you're so angry about your BP's temperment while being fed in his enclosure, why not switch back to feeding him in his tub? If you're that upset about it, and really believe that feeding in his enclosure is the cause of this bad temperment, then I would just go back to doing what had worked best for you. As long as your BP continues to eat well and is healthy, there shouldn't be a problem.

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I've been waiting to see how he would adjust but so far it only appears to be getting worse. The attraction is primarily the convenience. I was planning on switching back this weekend. I think he's just such an eager eater that he's always hoping I'm going to drop a mouse in. He usually comes out of his hide and gets wound up when I first enter the room. I don't keep rodent scented stuff around.

I can say this. If he's reacting to any kind of smells, that will not last long. I keep my guinea pigs in the same room as my snake rack. For the first 2 weeks or so, I could tell my snakes were alert and noticing the scent. But they got used to that and now it's not a big deal.

I honestly do not understand why that would permanently turn your snake aggressive. I think it may be upsetting to you because I know you've mentioned in threads before that you've never been hissed at, struck at, etc... But it is a fairly normal snake behavior (not ALL the time of course), whether you breed or keep them as pets.

Wow...

I had know idea this was such a touchy subject. Anyway, my opinion on this whole situation is that if some one owns or handles many snakes(or any other creature) of the same exact kind (I'm not talking about 5, 10, or even 20; but alot), they can make pretty accurite judgements about that particular species as a whole. However, if someone else has only one snake (or any other creature) I believe they will know their pet's behavior more than anyone else could just based off of their own personal experiences with it. Basically, IMO ever BP is very similar but they will all behave slightly different. Now I've only had a BP for about a week. So I'm def. not talking from BP experience, but from pet/animal experience in general.

I'm really not looking to argue as I don't feel either side is right or wrong, I just figured I'd add my 2 cents to this bucket of pennies.